Originally posted by twhitehead
Was satan created, lived, and sentenced all before man was created but withing the time of the universe?
So is this universe time or external universe time? Was satan created, lived, and sentenced all before man was created but withing the time of the universe?
[b]You mean you haven't made a choice?
Yes I have made a choice, but you are telling me it is the wrong choice. Hence I must be not intelligent enough to know what the right choice is (or simp ...[text shortened]... tcome may not be already determined? Or is God like a big cat that likes to toy with its mice?[/b]
Yes, prior to human history. Man was created to resolve the angelic conflict, and he inhabits the very sphere previously inhabited by Satan when he was Lucifer.
Hence I must be not intelligent enough to know what the right choice is (or simply lacking information).
It is not for lack of intelligence or information that you have made your current decision. However, I may be wrong on the information part. Perhaps you are not aware what it takes (according to God) for a man to be saved. You may have been raised or exposed to those who treated Christianity as though it were a religion, full of taboos and ought-nots and whatnot, never knowing that salvation is wrought by nonmeritorious faith in the work of the cross by the Lord Jesus Christ.
Initially compelling to arrogant human thinking, a system of works and prohibited behavior feels
like it should be right. That's not God's way, however. Any plan is only as strong as its weakest link. God left nothing up to the possible/probable failure of others. All the work is His and, therefore, all the glory. He did the work, our part is simple: believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved.
Hence God must be negligent. Similarly for Satan.
NO ONE knew more about God than Lucifer. Knowledge wasn't the issue in rejecting God's plan for his life. Arrogance was the issue for him, and for all who follow his same path.
Are you implying that Gods judgement may be imperfect? That the outcome may not be already determined? Or is God like a big cat that likes to toy with its mice?
No, that is not the inferrence at all. God knows the future as clearly as the past and present. This present reality is merely for our benefit, not His.