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  1. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    16 Sep '18 11:47
    "The beauty of life does not depend on how happy you are - but on how happy others can be because of you."

    Just read that on a friend's 'status' on WhatsApp.

    How true is it? As explanations of 'the beauty of life' go, can it be bettered?
  2. 16 Sep '18 11:58
    Originally posted by @fmf
    "The beauty of life does not depend on how happy you are - but on how happy others can be because of you."

    Just read that on a friend's 'status' on WhatsApp.

    How true is it? As explanations of 'the beauty of life' go, can it be bettered?
    It's a touchy-feely statement that looks good on paper, but most people are either too selfish, or too concerned with their own life to actually do it consistently.

    *Consistently being the key.
  3. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    16 Sep '18 12:13
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    It's a touchy-feely statement that looks good on paper, but most people are either too selfish, or too concerned with their own life to actually do it consistently.
    This has not been true in the human environments I've been living in for the last 30 or 40 years. Far from it. Maybe I have been lucky. Furthermore, I think it does apply to almost all parents for significant slices of their lives - which accounts for billions and billions of people. Your comment sounds cynical to me, but if it is the product of the life you've lived and the people you've been around, then you have my sympathy.
  4. 16 Sep '18 12:19
    Originally posted by @fmf
    This has not been true in the human environments I've been living in for the last 30 or 40 years. Far from it. Maybe I have been lucky. Furthermore, I think it does apply to almost all parents for significant slices of their lives - which accounts for billions and billions of people. Your comment sounds cynical to me, but if it is the product of the life you've lived and the people you've been around, then you have my sympathy.
    I don't need your sympathy, I'm just telling it like it is.
    People are mostly selfish, with brief periods here and there concerned about others.
    *Especially so if making someone happy interferes greatly with their own life.
  5. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    16 Sep '18 12:41
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    I don't need your sympathy, I'm just telling it like it is.
    If you are telling it like it has been for you, then you get my sympathy whether you like it or not.
  6. Standard member dj2becker
    rentrer à la maison
    16 Sep '18 12:46
    Originally posted by @fmf
    "The beauty of life does not depend on how happy you are - but on how happy others can be because of you."

    Just read that on a friend's 'status' on WhatsApp.

    How true is it? As explanations of 'the beauty of life' go, can it be bettered?
    I'm sure any prostitute would disagree.
  7. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    16 Sep '18 12:47
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    People are mostly selfish, with brief periods here and there concerned about others. *Especially so if making someone happy interferes greatly with their own life.
    People who are "mostly selfish" - like the people you presumably live amongst - are then probably not experiencing the beauty of life to its fullest extent.

    Did you really think the statement in the OP somehow comes with a built-in claim that it's actually true for every single person everywhere?

    It's surely just taking a stab at how one might define the 'beauty of life'.

    If you don't think the OP's take on it is true - or makes a valid proposal about what life's priorities ought to be - what would be your definition of the beauty of life?
  8. Subscriber FMF
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    16 Sep '18 12:48 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    I'm sure any prostitute would disagree.
    As explanations of 'the beauty of life' go, can the one in the OP be bettered?
  9. 16 Sep '18 12:52
    Originally posted by @fmf
    If you are telling it like it has been for you, then you get my sympathy whether you like it or not.
    Or maybe you're just a privileged white guy in a foreign country.
  10. Subscriber FMF
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    16 Sep '18 12:52
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    It's a touchy-feely statement that looks good on paper, but most people are either too selfish, or too concerned with their own life to actually do it consistently.
    So do you believe that the supposed selfishness of "most people" is the beauty of life for them?
  11. Subscriber FMF
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    16 Sep '18 12:56
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    Or maybe you're just a privileged white guy in a foreign country.
    You have my sympathy if this is the kind of thing that an OP like this makes you want to say. For me, the OP rings true and I probably absorbed the outlook that it encapsulates from being a Christian for such a long time. I also believe that one of the key meanings of life is to affect people around you positively and lovingly. Perhaps life has a differnt meaning for you? Maybe you will share.
  12. 16 Sep '18 13:00
    Originally posted by @fmf
    You have my sympathy if this is the kind of thing that an OP like this makes you want to say. For me, the OP rings true and I probably absorbed the outlook that it encapsulates from being a Christian for such a long time. I also believe that one of the key meanings of life is to affect people around you positively and lovingly. Perhaps life has a differnt meaning for you? Maybe you will share.
    I'm just saying that a privileged white guy living in a foreign country, along with his internet friends, may look at life through a different lens than that of normal people.
  13. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    16 Sep '18 13:03
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    I'm just saying that a privileged white guy living in a foreign country, along with his internet friends, may look at life through a different lens than that of normal people.
    So what's your take on the beauty of life? You've heard mine. How do you define it?
  14. Standard member KellyJay
    Walk your Faith
    16 Sep '18 13:09
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    Or maybe you're just a privileged white guy in a foreign country.
    A racist thing to say.
  15. 16 Sep '18 13:13
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    A racist thing to say.
    Not if it's true.