They've given Big Sam no time at all to make any sort of impact at St James'...
Any manager in any profession needs 12 months to stamp their mark. (Mind you having said that, I'd get rid of Robson from the Lane tomorrow - so maybe I'm being slightly hipocritical here!)
There's no stability at Newcastle, everyone from the Chairman to the laundry lady must be working with one eye over their shoulder. You're never going to get people to perform until they feel there's a little security about what they're doing.
I think Sam's a decent manager, he did excellently at an unfashionable club like Bolton... but he was given time to do that.
Originally posted by ElleEffSeee When was the last time a footballer with no managerial experience took on a struggling club in the top league and turned things round for more than a season?
Prediction: good results followed by mediocre finish to season, followed by woeful start to next season, followed by sacking by Christmas. Do these chairmen never learn? Get an experienced foreigner in! Though Harry Rednob would be a good choice IMO.
You are right I mean the most obvious example is:-
Kenny Dalglish and Graham Souness taking over Liverpool.
Managers with no experience taking over a struggling club.
'Reports have also suggested Houllier could potentially bring in Shearer as his number two in an attempt to groom the former England star for the job long-term.'
is possibly the worst idea ever. Shearer is too much of a hero and when things start going wrong (again), the fans will be even quicker to want to offload Ged and get their (inexperienced) man in charge.
What is it with this 'grooming' idea anyway? Did it work for McClaren under Sven? Did it work with Brian Kidd under Fergie? Of course not - stupid idea.
Originally posted by ElleEffSeee What is it with this 'grooming' idea anyway? Did it work for McClaren under Sven? Did it work with Brian Kidd under Fergie? Of course not - stupid idea.
That wasn't why they failed though.
I agree that that particular combination would probably be a disaster. But if Shearer really does want to be Newcastle manager some day, he really ought to get out of the TV studio and get some experience.
Originally posted by ElleEffSeee What is it with this 'grooming' idea anyway? Did it work for McClaren under Sven? Did it work with Brian Kidd under Fergie? Of course not - stupid idea.
McClaren may not have cut it as England boss, but he was groomed by Fergie (after Jim Smith at Derby) and made a good job of the M'boro manager position once he took that up (keep in mind they're not a top half prem club really).
I don't believe this. Yes he's got a good record with Newcastle, but he's been rubbish everywhere else hasn't he? He's even admitted his reason for giving up the England job was that he was tactically naive. I don't think he can credibly claim to have sorted out this naivety given he's done not much in the game since. Managers who spend too long either out of the game or moving from mediocre post to post become rubbish managers - Ron Atkinson, El Tel, Hoddle, etc. Can anyone see anything other than Keegan and Newcastle parting 'With Mutual Consent' come Christmas?
Originally posted by ElleEffSeee I don't believe this. Yes he's got a good record with Newcastle, but he's been rubbish everywhere else hasn't he? He's even admitted his reason for giving up the England job was that he was tactically naive. I don't think he can credibly claim to have sorted out this naivety given he's done not much in the game since. Managers who spend too long either o ...[text shortened]... anything other than Keegan and Newcastle parting 'With Mutual Consent' come Christmas?
you have to look at the newcastle owner, Mike Ashley! 🙄
Anybody see the interview on BBC last night where he said 3 months ago that he hadn't watched a live game of football since his last game in charge at City?
KK will undoubtedly lift the gloom that surrounds St James' at the moment, but all I can hear is the news bulletin this summer:
"Kevin Keegan and Newcastle United have parted company by mutual consent"...
They should poach Robson from us... he's a Geordie, they'll love him up there!
Originally posted by blade68 KK will undoubtedly lift the gloom that surrounds St James' at the moment, but all I can hear is the news bulletin this summer:
"Kevin Keegan and Newcastle United have parted company by mutual consent"...
They should poach Robson from us... he's a Geordie, they'll love him up there!
Blade68... stop trying to off load your manager on to other, what have they done to you that you want to punish them?😉
Anyway now you are through to the 4th round of the FA cup, you will never git rid of robson😀
Alan Shearer for Newcastle #)
10 Jan '08 20:49
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