Originally posted by darvlayWhy don't YOU buzz off? This guy will entice young players to take a few cycles of steroids to get big so they can also do things beyond the normal abilities of a human. This shouldn't be celebrated, or swept under the rug. This guy should be alienated for what he's done so the future players of any game know that if they beef-up and put up cartoon like numbers no one is going to accept their record as anything other than cheating.
Don't care? Buzz off then.
That guy's skull is stupid big. He's got hands like shovels, and feet like Donal Duck. I'd punch his FACE!
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Originally posted by PhlabibitOh Puh-leeze! You really think there are kids out there juicing saying, I want to be like Barry! Not bloody likely. People juice because they're idiots, not because they idolize someone who does.
Why don't YOU buzz off? This guy will entice young players to take a few cycles of steroids to get big so they can also do things beyond the normal abilities of a human. This shouldn't be celebrated, or swept under the rug. This guy should be alienated for what he's done so the future players of any game know that if they beef-up and put up cartoon like ...[text shortened]... id big. He's got hands like shovels, and feet like Donal Duck. I'd punch his FACE!
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Originally posted by darvlayI think you are obviously right that only an idiot would use HGH or steriods in the hopes that they would hit like Barry Bonds. But, I think there are a lot of idiots on planet earth (including Mr. Bonds himself who wanted to be like Sosa and McGuire) and they see how instead of aging and losing power individuals could hit homeruns at never seen paces. People are often short sided and they do idolize the achievement and the man and they are more likely to be Barry, Sosa ans McGuire even if it means risking their health for glory.
Oh Puh-leeze! You really think there are kids out there juicing saying, I want to be like Barry! Not bloody likely. People juice because they're idiots, not because they idolize someone who does.
Originally posted by myteamtrulystinksDon't blame the players who cheated. Blame MLB for turning a blind eye when they knew what was happening. Now that major sports leagues have become more-or-less zero tolerance on the issue, what do we have to worry about?
I think you are obviously right that only an idiot would use HGH or steriods in the hopes that they would hit like Barry Bonds. But, I think there are a lot of idiots on planet earth (including Mr. Bonds himself who wanted to be like Sosa and McGuire) and they see how instead of aging and losing power individuals could hit homeruns at never seen p ...[text shortened]... y are more likely to be Barry, Sosa ans McGuire even if it means risking their health for glory.
We can crucify the players on this all we like and state that they're leading thousands (maybe even MILLIONS) of kids to do performance enhancing drugs but the bottom line is people do these drugs all over the world. It's just a sad part of human nature; the want to be HUGE. Sports leagues all over the world need to get their houses in order and this stuff will stop on the professional level - bottom line. But as for the idiot kids and amateurs, they will always do it; Barry or not.
There is no denying Bonds was a great ballplayer. Like I have said before, let's just accept the fact that MLB has erred and pray that someone else comes and breaks the record as soon as possible.
Originally posted by darvlayWhen I tell my kid about Bary I'm not going to leave out that he did steroids and was a big fat-headed cheater. My kid is going to know I gave this guy no respect and no credibility for what he did to achieve his tainted record.
Oh Puh-leeze! You really think there are kids out there juicing saying, I want to be like Barry! Not bloody likely. People juice because they're idiots, not because they idolize someone who does.
Now if I were to sugar coat and sweep it under the rug I'd be sending my kid a different message.
Yes, kids DO look up to people and even try to be like their heroes. What the hell are you thinking?
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Originally posted by darvlayWe can hold MLB AND the cheaters responsible for what they did. I'm not giving anyone a free pass on this one. I'll blame them both, thank you.
Don't blame the players who cheated. Blame MLB for turning a blind eye when they knew what was happening. Now that major sports leagues have become more-or-less zero tolerance on the issue, what do we have to worry about?
We can crucify the players on this all we like and state that they're leading thousands (maybe even MILLIONS) of kids to do performan ...[text shortened]... at MLB has erred and pray that someone else comes and breaks the record as soon as possible.
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Originally posted by PhlabibitObviously, this is not a fond memory for baseball. And obviously, I'm not going to tell my kid about the wonderful Barry Bonds and his hard work! I'll be like, See this mammoth butthole, he has this record because he used drugs to get where he is but the sad fact is nobody likes him and the majority of people no longer respect his accomplishment.
When I tell my kid about Bary I'm not going to leave out that he did steroids and was a big fat-headed cheater. My kid is going to know I gave this guy no respect and no credibility for what he did to achieve his tainted record.
Now if I were to sugar coat and sweep it under the rug I'd be sending my kid a different message.
Yes, kids DO look up to people and even try to be like their heroes. What the hell are you thinking?
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And NEWS FLASH - no kid looks up to Barry Bonds. Not anymore.
(White) Kids look up to guys like Tom Brady. Hell, the whole world looks up to Tom Brady.
Originally posted by PhlabibitSo which players should we crucify then, in your opinion?
We can hold MLB AND the cheaters responsible for what they did. I'm not giving anyone a free pass on this one. I'll blame them both, thank you.
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And if nobody told the cheaters what they were doing was wrong, why should they have stopped? THEY knew. WE suspected. But they didn't care. Keep socking them dingers boys and get those people back in the seats!
And look at bsaeball now, as popular as ever and back on track.