03 Jul '12 12:33>
Originally posted by sh76You keep talking about 1994 like it is a Cy Young year. It was the best of his last four year in Boston. His average year for those four ws (W-L) 10-9.75 with a 3.77 ERA. Clemens simply getting older and was not the 21 -6 1.93, 18-10 2.62 and 18-11 2.41 pitcher he was the three years before or the 21-7 2.05 and 20-6 2.65 year he was before (all 5 years he led the league in ERA). Seriously, stop and look at the difference in the numbers.
You can't keep saying "4 years" and then dismissing 1994. Without 1994, it's three years, not four. Take away 1996 (in which Clemens also pitched well) and it's down to two nonconsecutive years.
Big deal. It's common for good pitchers to have off years now and then.
Cliff Lee is 0-5 with a 4.13 ERA right now. Roy Halladay is 4-5 with a 100 ERA+. Tim Lince ...[text shortened]... being CY caliber pitchers next year, are you going to start accusing them of being juiced?
Guys normally magically don't get better with age nevertheless I'd say nothing if there was no DNA on syringes or teammates incriminate themeselves & Clemens, no ridiuclous stories like the PEDs were for his non-athletic wife or have former Senators write reports outlining his cheating behavior.
If Lee and Halladay who in their 30s have 3 more similar bad years and then have their DNA on a syringe, have teammates testify against them and their behavior is outlined in Mitchell Report II but then win 4 more Cy Young Awards. I will DEFINITELY accuse them of cheating too.