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  1. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    25 Jan '10 01:34
    This is not an excuse (read: it is an excuse), but the Shonn Green injury was huge. He's the heart of the offense right now.

    But for real, Peyton Manning is either the best QB I've ever seen or he's right there with Marino.

    Good luck in the SB. I'll root for them regardless. Go AFC.
  2. 25 Jan '10 11:06
    Originally posted by sh76
    This is not an excuse (read: it is an excuse), but the Shonn Green injury was huge. He's the heart of the offense right now.

    But for real, Peyton Manning is either the best QB I've ever seen or he's right there with Marino.

    Good luck in the SB. I'll root for them regardless. Go AFC.
    you mean the same shonn greene that had just over 40 yards and no touchdowns into the third quarter? if that's the shonn greene that you're talking about, then you need a new excuse. or, you can just accept the fact that no one beats peyton manning this year. it hasn't happened through 16 games, and it won't happen on his 17th either.
  3. 25 Jan '10 12:56
    Originally posted by Big Orange Country
    you mean the same shonn greene that had just over 40 yards and no touchdowns into the third quarter? if that's the shonn greene that you're talking about, then you need a new excuse. or, you can just accept the fact that no one beats peyton manning this year. it hasn't happened through 16 games, and it won't happen on his 17th either.
    Of course it impacted the game. Stats alone are not the sole indicator of a player's importance. It alters your game plan to lose a player you gameplanned around regardless of stats. Contrary-wise, if the D no longer has to account for the missing player they can shift focus to other areas and be succesful that way. Indy's undersized, but speedy D sure played better after Green came out!
  4. 25 Jan '10 16:58 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Big Orange Country
    you mean the same shonn greene that had just over 40 yards and no touchdowns into the third quarter? if that's the shonn greene that you're talking about, then you need a new excuse. or, you can just accept the fact that no one beats peyton manning this year. it hasn't happened through 16 games, and it won't happen on his 17th either.
    So he was on pace to be around 90 yards by the end of the day, and only an additional carry or two from 100.

    Manning doesn't play on defense. So if your side can score more points than his side, you can "beat" Manning. The problem for the Jets is that their side put up a big goose-egg in the second half. Whether this was because of Greene's absence or the Colts steel curtain defense, it had nothing to do with Manning.
  5. 25 Jan '10 18:59
    Originally posted by Melanerpes
    So he was on pace to be around 90 yards by the end of the day, and only an additional carry or two from 100.

    Manning doesn't play on defense. So if your side can score more points than his side, you can "beat" Manning. The problem for the Jets is that their side put up a big goose-egg in the second half. Whether this was because of Greene's absence or the Colts steel curtain defense, it had nothing to do with Manning.
    pretty sure peyton has a lot to do with the defense's success. For example, the colts were down 17-6. Peyton scores big to cut the deficit to 4. After that the defensive players got pumped up and played lights out. There's footage of a defensive player jumping up and down. This spark on defense was caused by the score on offense. 100 yards isn't impressive against the colts. maybe against a big defensive team like the steelers or ravens, but if you wanna be impressive you gotta run for at least 150 on us. 100? yawn.
  6. 25 Jan '10 21:29
    Originally posted by Big Orange Country
    pretty sure peyton has a lot to do with the defense's success. For example, the colts were down 17-6. Peyton scores big to cut the deficit to 4. After that the defensive players got pumped up and played lights out. There's footage of a defensive player jumping up and down. This spark on defense was caused by the score on offense. 100 yards isn't ...[text shortened]... rs or ravens, but if you wanna be impressive you gotta run for at least 150 on us. 100? yawn.
    it's the AFC championship game and the defensive players still need someone else to get them "pumped up"?
  7. 26 Jan '10 02:49
    Originally posted by Melanerpes
    it's the AFC championship game and the defensive players still need someone else to get them "pumped up"?
    obviously, when they're not playing well, yes. it's called a shift in momentum.
  8. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    26 Jan '10 14:01 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by Big Orange Country
    you mean the same shonn greene that had just over 40 yards and no touchdowns into the third quarter? if that's the shonn greene that you're talking about, then you need a new excuse. or, you can just accept the fact that no one beats peyton manning this year. it hasn't happened through 16 games, and it won't happen on his 17th either.
    You don't watch the Jets much, do you?

    The Jets split time between him and Jones. Greene had over 40 yards in the first half, while splitting the carries with Jones.

    In addition, the Jets running game always gets stronger into the second half. The second half is when Greene tore up the Chargers last week.

    Greene has been the key to the Jets second half offense for months now.

    I never said the Jets would have won. In fact, I clearly stated the opposite. But to pooh-pooh the loss of Greene in the second half is completely ridiculous.