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    29 Dec '12 08:54
    What is the precise statistical basis for the selection of the following 'fantasy' XI (featuring 6 batsmen and 5 bowlers)?

    Stewart
    Atherton
    Vaughan
    Butcher
    Hussain
    Gooch
    DeFreitas
    Gough
    Fraser
    Caddick
    Malcolm

    These would be the six other players in the same squad (3 more batsmen, and 3 more bowlers, picked on the same basis):

    Thorpe
    Ramprakash
    Pietersen
    Headley
    Tufnell
    and Hoggard or Harmison
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    29 Dec '12 22:312 edits
    Originally posted by FMF
    What is the precise statistical basis for the selection of the following 'fantasy' XI (featuring 6 batsmen and 5 bowlers)?

    Stewart
    Atherton
    Vaughan
    Butcher
    Hussain
    Gooch
    DeFreitas
    Gough
    Fraser
    Caddick
    Malcolm

    These would be the six other players in the same squad (3 more batsmen, and 3 more bowlers, picked on the same basis):

    Thorpe
    Ramprakash
    Pietersen
    Headley
    Tufnell
    and Hoggard or Harmison
    Total stab in the dark. As they are all players from the last 20 years or so, are these the top English run scorers and wicket takers in tests against South Africa?

    Or, alternatively, the top individual score / most wickets taken in a test match against South Africa. I recall Devon Malcolm taking a bucketful against them once.

    Or best test averages against South Africa?
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    30 Dec '12 00:25
    Originally posted by Rank outsider
    Total stab in the dark. As they are all players from the last 20 years or so, are these the top English run scorers and wicket takers in tests against South Africa?

    Or, alternatively, the top individual score / most wickets taken in a test match against South Africa. I recall Devon Malcolm taking a bucketful against them once.

    Or best test averages against South Africa?
    No. This puzzle does not involve South Africa.
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    30 Dec '12 08:55
    Originally posted by FMF
    No. This puzzle does nojt involve South Africa.
    I thought I was being so clever.

    Anything to do with alphabetical order?
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    30 Dec '12 11:02
    Originally posted by Rank outsider
    I thought I was being so clever.

    Anything to do with alphabetical order?
    No. You were on the right lines before.
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    30 Dec '12 19:46
    Originally posted by FMF
    No. You were on the right lines before.
    Is it about performances against a specific country?
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    30 Dec '12 23:55
    Originally posted by Rank outsider
    Is it about performances against a specific country?
    Yes.
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    31 Dec '12 11:01
    Bangladesh?
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    31 Dec '12 12:33
    Originally posted by Rank outsider
    Bangladesh?
    Neither Ramprakash nor Headley [for instance] played any Tests against Bangladesh.
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    31 Dec '12 12:34
    Originally posted by FMF
    Neither Ramprakash nor Headley [for instance] played any Tests against Bangladesh.
    Sri Lanka?
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    31 Dec '12 14:411 edit
    Originally posted by Rank outsider
    Sri Lanka?
    Dean Headley never played a Test against them.

    Ramprakash only scored 95 against them in 2 games.
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    31 Dec '12 15:361 edit
    Is it bad performance related rather than good?

    Australia?
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    31 Dec '12 17:07
    Originally posted by Rank outsider
    Is it bad performance related rather than good?

    Australia?
    England unable to win AWAY in Australia 1988-2007, most prolific run scorers and most prolific wicket takers.
  14. Standard memberRed Night
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    16 Jan '13 17:37
    Originally posted by FMF
    What is the precise statistical basis for the selection of the following 'fantasy' XI (featuring 6 batsmen and 5 bowlers)?

    Stewart
    Atherton
    Vaughan
    Butcher
    Hussain
    Gooch
    DeFreitas
    Gough
    Fraser
    Caddick
    Malcolm

    These would be the six other players in the same squad (3 more batsmen, and 3 more bowlers, picked on the same basis):

    Thorpe
    Ramprakash
    Pietersen
    Headley
    Tufnell
    and Hoggard or Harmison
    those must be the best cricketeers of all time.

    maybe they lift their pinky the highest during the tea intervals or wear the most crisply starched knickers?
  15. Standard memberCrowley
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    17 Jan '13 10:22
    Originally posted by Red Night
    those must be the best cricketeers of all time.

    maybe they lift their pinky the highest during the tea intervals or wear the most crisply starched knickers?
    No, these are the guys who were never quite the best, but still had more ball skills than any baseball player in existence.
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