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  1. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    28 Feb '09 21:14
    After giving Cassel a franchise tag, they deal him AND Vrabel to the Chiefs for a 2ND ROUND DRAFT CHOICE? http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/29443788/

    WTF?
  2. 28 Feb '09 22:18
    They got a second round pick for their overpaid backup quaterback in a cap world. Sounds like a good deal to me.
  3. 28 Feb '09 22:20
    Wait till Cassel tries to throw a pass in back of KC's line.
  4. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    01 Mar '09 01:17 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by quackquack
    They got a second round pick for their overpaid backup quaterback in a cap world. Sounds like a good deal to me.
    They're the ones who decided to overpay him a few weeks ago. They're saving no more cap space than if they hadn't franchised him.
  5. 01 Mar '09 13:29
    but he isn't worth that much money and the patriots certainly did better than if he left via free agency.
  6. Subscriber shortcircuit
    The Energizer
    01 Mar '09 16:55
    Originally posted by quackquack
    but he isn't worth that much money and the patriots certainly did better than if he left via free agency.
    Vrabel was just a toss away player then?
  7. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    01 Mar '09 19:00
    Originally posted by quackquack
    but he isn't worth that much money and the patriots certainly did better than if he left via free agency.
    That he was dealt was no surprise but to get only a 2nd rounder for him and Vrabel is shocking. The Falcons got 2 2nd round draft choices for Matt Schaub two years ago and he had only started two games in his career. Surely Cassel and Vrabel should have been worth at least that.
  8. 02 Mar '09 15:09
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    They're the ones who decided to overpay him a few weeks ago. They're saving no more cap space than if they hadn't franchised him.
    There's more than meets the eye on this one. The Pats turned down a first-rounder from Denver for Cassel as well. Here's little excerpt from Chris Mortensen:



    "This one defies logic, but a source I really trust tells me it's true: The Broncos were willing to offer their own first-round pick (12th overall) to the Patriots for Cassel. Obviously, it was conditional upon Cutler being traded and Tampa Bay was the most likely destination, the Bucs willing to part with their first- and third-round picks.

    But Belichick never embraced a trade with the Broncos, even though it was a head-scratcher on the value part (second-rounder versus a first-rounder). It suggests two or three speculative thoughts:

    1. Belichick has always valued second-round picks (he now has three) and didn't want to be stuck at No. 12 financially for whatever reason;
    2. Belichick had an agreement with Pioli all along and wouldn't break his word;
    3. Belichick isn't about to help another former assistant.

    The Broncos sensed resistance all along, which is why they held the Bucs, Lions, Vikings, etc., at arm's length and allows McDaniels his plausible deniability on trading Cutler (and logic supports his denial).

    However, despite intense efforts to keep this run at Cassel under wraps, enough damage has been done that Cutler may now be on the block.

    The Broncos/Cutler aspect of the trade was reported by the Boston Globe. A Patriots' leak? Why? To mess with McDaniels?"
  9. Standard member Phlabibit
    Mystic Meg
    02 Mar '09 15:12
    Nothing to see here, Bill made the right and only choice. He can do no wrong.

    Leave him alone!

    P-
  10. Subscriber shortcircuit
    The Energizer
    02 Mar '09 19:03
    Originally posted by Phlabibit
    Nothing to see here, Bill made the right and only choice. He can do no wrong.

    Leave him alone!

    P-
    * Doing the Brady voodoo dance *

    Singing the lyrics "Sewing the Seeds of Love"

    Bill Belichick has outsmarted himself on this one. If you pass on a first round pick because you don't want the financial commitment involved...simply trade the pick and gain your coveted second round pick PLUS another pick ot two.
  11. 02 Mar '09 20:42
    Should the chiefs have given tyler thigpen a chance to start? He played pretty well this year and might have developed into a good qb.
  12. 02 Mar '09 21:09 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by dryhump
    Should the chiefs have given tyler thigpen a chance to start? He played pretty well this year and might have developed into a good qb.
    Or a good WR, for that matter.

    But no, I think they made the right choice.
  13. Standard member Traderious
    Sith Lord
    08 Mar '09 16:35
    Originally posted by dryhump
    Should the chiefs have given tyler thigpen a chance to start? He played pretty well this year and might have developed into a good qb.
    Thigpen still may get his chance seeing as Cassel won't have Moss and Welker to throw to. No one is really sure how good Matt truly is.
  14. Standard member Phlabibit
    Mystic Meg
    09 Mar '09 14:41
    Originally posted by shortcircuit
    * Doing the Brady voodoo dance *

    Singing the lyrics "Sewing the Seeds of Love"

    Bill Belichick has outsmarted himself on this one. If you pass on a first round pick because you don't want the financial commitment involved...simply trade the pick and gain your coveted second round pick PLUS another pick ot two.
    That's not how it went down, Detroit wanted some fancy 3 team trade and Bill wanted to get it done right away and didn't want the offer to slip off the table waiting for a green team to pull of the improbable.

    P-
  15. 11 Mar '09 01:28
    Originally posted by Phlabibit
    That's not how it went down, Detroit wanted some fancy 3 team trade and Bill wanted to get it done right away and didn't want the offer to slip off the table waiting for a green team to pull of the improbable.

    P-
    Matt is good... if i was bill... i would keep welker, moss, and have cassel in the QB spot. You're over-paying brady and at his time he's gonna get heckuva alot of injuries, so he wont be playing... let him go, save money... and add a different player or keep the extra cash for emergencies...
    NOTE : Players play for the team that pays them the most. so if you wanna keep brady? keep him at low stakes as a 1 year deal.
    if you find out other teams want him for a higher price? raise it for 1-year again