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  1. 03 May '07 20:04
    ok guys
    i need some help...
    this is coming up to the end of my first year of playing rugby
    football got boring, and rugby loked fun, so I thopught i'd giv 'er a go
    i love the sport entirely...
    and I want to improve so I can play in college...

    I am a big kid: 6'1.5" 270 pounds, and it's becoming more muscle as the season has gone on, so i'm in relatively good shape...

    I prop or lock on the field, and I have a question...
    why is it that, as prop, i can bind on well at loosehead, but not tighthead
    i just don't get it...
    i can do loosehead, but not tighthead prop...
    any explanation?
  2. 03 May '07 21:28
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    ok guys
    i need some help...
    this is coming up to the end of my first year of playing rugby
    football got boring, and rugby loked fun, so I thopught i'd giv 'er a go
    i love the sport entirely...
    and I want to improve so I can play in college...

    I am a big kid: 6'1.5" 270 pounds, and it's becoming more muscle as the season has gone on, so i'm in r ...[text shortened]...
    i just don't get it...
    i can do loosehead, but not tighthead prop...
    any explanation?
    hey rubberjaw. Im not a forward, I play full back(15) and I don't have an in depth knowleadge of scrums. However my understanding is that generally its better to have the bigger and say more more powerful lock behind the tight head, this will help counter the natural turn of the scrum. The scrum is all about finding balance amongst your players, the props and locks have to have a really good understanding for co-ordination and balance to work. Most of all your must all be comfortable in your position. A scrum is 100% teamwork, it sometimes takes locks and props a while before they find a comfortable position in the scrum. Just from talking to other forwards, let your front row each find their most comfortable position and work from there. It might just be that loosehead is yout natural position. Not sure if that helps or its anything you don't know already but good luck, rugbys a great great game, hope your looking forward to the world cup later this year.
  3. Standard member rhb
    Ginger Scum
    03 May '07 21:33
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    i can do loosehead, but not tighthead
    Try puckering your lips a bit more.

    During the daytime, chew gum - many pieces at a time. This will strengthen your jaw muscles.
  4. 04 May '07 02:25
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    ok guys
    i need some help...
    this is coming up to the end of my first year of playing rugby
    football got boring, and rugby loked fun, so I thopught i'd giv 'er a go
    i love the sport entirely...
    and I want to improve so I can play in college...

    I am a big kid: 6'1.5" 270 pounds, and it's becoming more muscle as the season has gone on, so i'm in r ...[text shortened]...
    i just don't get it...
    i can do loosehead, but not tighthead prop...
    any explanation?
    With a name like rubberjaw, I find it perfectly natural that you are a better loosehead than tighthead!!! HAAA! I kill me
  5. 04 May '07 06:20
    Originally posted by rhb
    Try puckering your lips a bit more.

    During the daytime, chew gum - many pieces at a time. This will strengthen your jaw muscles.
  6. 06 May '07 21:31
    incredible...
    4 posts and only one of them was worth anything
    you guys are amazing...
    thanks white knight, appreciate it...
    are there any props on the site?
  7. Standard member boarman
    member 001
    07 May '07 09:14
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    incredible...
    4 posts and only one of them was worth anything
    you guys are amazing...
    thanks white knight, appreciate it...
    are there any props on the site?
    i'll ask at training tomorrow night for you ,we have some experienced props and they will know for sure
  8. Standard member rhb
    Ginger Scum
    07 May '07 19:19
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30

    4 posts and only one of them was worth anything
    thanks I recommend Wrigleys brand, it's chewier.
  9. 07 May '07 20:11
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    ok guys
    i need some help...
    this is coming up to the end of my first year of playing rugby
    football got boring, and rugby loked fun, so I thopught i'd giv 'er a go
    i love the sport entirely...
    and I want to improve so I can play in college...

    I am a big kid: 6'1.5" 270 pounds, and it's becoming more muscle as the season has gone on, so i'm in r ...[text shortened]...
    i just don't get it...
    i can do loosehead, but not tighthead prop...
    any explanation?
    Binding at loosehead means you get your arm on the outside of your opposite number (the tighthead). This means you can (illegally) try to pull him down etc. The tighthead is the cornerstone of the scrum, once he goes the scrum will get anhilitated.
  10. Standard member boarman
    member 001
    08 May '07 12:36
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    incredible...
    4 posts and only one of them was worth anything
    you guys are amazing...
    thanks white knight, appreciate it...
    are there any props on the site?
    well it could be your feet placement
    whether you are left or right handed
    your strength
    with the loosehead prop you are trying to pull your opponent towards you with your left are whereas with tighthead its more of a stabalising arm where you try to roll in with your head and shoulders
  11. 10 May '07 08:11
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    ok guys
    i need some help...
    this is coming up to the end of my first year of playing rugby
    football got boring, and rugby loked fun, so I thopught i'd giv 'er a go
    i love the sport entirely...
    and I want to improve so I can play in college...

    I am a big kid: 6'1.5" 270 pounds, and it's becoming more muscle as the season has gone on, so i'm in r ...[text shortened]...
    i just don't get it...
    i can do loosehead, but not tighthead prop...
    any explanation?
    There are many factors that can influence binding in the scrum. No one's body is exactly symmetrical. Also, you will find that you bind differently with different people. I play lock, and bind very well with my current locking partner, but only if I am on the right and she is on the left (no matter where the scrum is). Together we can make a very powerful scrum, but only if we are bound in this configuration. I think you should go with whatever postition gives you the most power in the scrum, as this will ultimately be of the most benefit to your team.
  12. 10 May '07 17:28
    You are probably better off going to a rugby forum rather than a chess forum for techical questions! I have played No 6 for the last 25 years - I still have no idea what goes on in the front row.

    You might be interested that the "strongest" prop in world rugby Andrew Sheridan all 6'5" of him plays loosehead. It is also fair to say that Carl Hayman destroyed - perhaps a little strong - him in their last encounter.
  13. 11 May '07 00:00
    Originally posted by Mat Kelley
    You are probably better off going to a rugby forum rather than a chess forum for techical questions! I have played No 6 for the last 25 years - I still have no idea what goes on in the front row.

    You might be interested that the "strongest" prop in world rugby Andrew Sheridan all 6'5" of him plays loosehead. It is also fair to say that Carl Hayman destroyed - perhaps a little strong - him in their last encounter.
    After a couple of bad years (relatively speaking) with their forward pack, the All Blacks put a lot of effort into their scrums - they were certainly the benchmark pack last year.

    Gains in rugby are fleeting, though, and a combination of hard work, new techniques and the smegging rule changes have evened the playing field (so to speak) for other teams a lot ...