13 Sep 07
Scolari is an idiot and I wish to clearly say here to all Serbians that might be reading this that he does not represent the attitudes of Portugal or Portuguese.
It was with deep shame that I saw what happened yesterday night. Not only was ordering the players to not give the ball back shown his total lack of fair play, punching Dragutinovic is completely unacceptable.
Good luck for your next games.
13 Sep 07
Originally posted by PalynkaLife's a Vic!
Scolari is an idiot and I wish to clearly say here to all Serbians that might be reading this that he does not represent the attitudes of Portugal or Portuguese.
It was with deep shame that I saw what happened yesterday night. Not only was ordering the players to not give the ball back shown his total lack of fair play, punching Dragutinovic is completely unacceptable.
Good luck for your next games.
Was it after Serbia put the ball out for a throw in so somebody could get treatment? If so, then the law has been changed and the referee decides when the game should stop instead of the players.
Any clip of what happened?
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13 Sep 07
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Originally posted by RagnorakHere's one. He didn't really hit him, but still...
Life's a Vic!
Was it after Serbia put the ball out for a throw in so somebody could get treatment? If so, then the law has been changed and the referee decides when the game should stop instead of the players.
Any clip of what happened?
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http://www.dailymotion.com/search/Scolari/video/x2ytg7_felipaovsdragutinovicround1mepongod_sport
I don't know if the law has changed or not but ordering the players to not give the ball back is still pathetic.
13 Sep 07
Originally posted by PalynkaIt's what we call a knacker punch in Ireland. Swing and run! LOL.
Here's one. He didn't really hit him, but still...
http://www.dailymotion.com/search/Scolari/video/x2ytg7_felipaovsdragutinovicround1mepongod_sport
I don't know if the law has changed or not but ordering the players to not give the ball back is still pathetic.
Do you think the ball should be given to the opposition on every throw in then?
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13 Sep 07
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Originally posted by PalynkaThe rules have changed. If the ref thinks a player needs immediate treatment, then he stops the game.
Every?
The previous method of allowing players to stop the game whenever they wanted, with a guarantee of being given the ball back was a complete farce, IMHO.
It promoted cheating, time wasting and gamesmanship.
[EDIT] I may be wrong. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/4796269.stm
The Premier League's stance makes perfect sense to me though, and I hope it's more widely adopted.
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13 Sep 07
Originally posted by RagnorakWell, the rules haven't changed in UEFA games, as far as I know. so I still give the Serbian players the benefit of the doubt and wish they had been given the ball back.
The rules have changed. If the ref thinks a player needs immediate treatment, then he stops the game.
The previous method of allowing players to stop the game whenever they wanted, with a guarantee of being given the ball back was a complete farce, IMHO.
It promoted cheating, time wasting and gamesmanship.
[EDIT] I may be wrong. http://news.bb ...[text shortened]... er League's stance makes perfect sense to me though, and I hope it's more widely adopted.
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13 Sep 07
Originally posted by PalynkaIt was never in the rules that the ball should be given back, it was just accepted convention. The Premier League asked teams to stop putting the ball out of play as the practice was open to abuse, and the referee can stop play whenever he wants in case of serious injury.
Well, the rules haven't changed in UEFA games, as far as I know. so I still give the Serbian players the benefit of the doubt and wish they had been given the ball back.
It's an approach that makes sense. But until it's adopted more widely I'd expect teams to stick to convention and give the ball back.
13 Sep 07
Originally posted by mtthwI (and think Rag) was using rules in a broad sense. In UEFA there were no specific statements so nothing has really changed. In that sense, I think that the traditional convention on what consists fair-play should have been upholded.
It was never in the rules that the ball should be given back, it was just accepted convention. The Premier League asked teams to stop putting the ball out of play as the practice was open to abuse, and the referee can stop play whenever he wants in case of serious injury.
It's an approach that makes sense. But until it's adopted more widely I'd expect teams to stick to convention and give the ball back.
I attacked Van Basten when he did the same against Portugal and I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't denounce Scolari, as well. I think it's particularly serious when ordered by a coach/manager.