1. Standard memberEsoteric
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    The USA beat 9 below average teams out of their last 10 wins and some fans seem to be getting ahead of themselves.

    Personally I think they are still quite far from being a real world class team as they consistently fail to perform on a elite stage and should get trounced in the Copa America (if the South American teams field in their full strength squads).

    Any thoughts to the otherwise?
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    26 Jun '07 08:15
    Originally posted by Esoteric
    The USA beat 9 below average teams out of their last 10 wins and some fans seem to be getting ahead of themselves.

    Personally I think they are still quite far from being a real world class team as they consistently fail to perform on a elite stage and should get trounced in the Copa America (if the South American teams field in their full strength squads).

    Any thoughts to the otherwise?
    Did you actually see any of the games?
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    26 Jun '07 08:25
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Did you actually see any of the games?
    I think he's speaking about pro wrestling.

    Ignorance is bliss.
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    26 Jun '07 10:52
    Originally posted by Esoteric
    The USA beat 9 below average teams out of their last 10 wins and some fans seem to be getting ahead of themselves.

    Personally I think they are still quite far from being a real world class team as they consistently fail to perform on a elite stage and should get trounced in the Copa America (if the South American teams field in their full strength squads).

    Any thoughts to the otherwise?
    I couldn't agree more.
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    26 Jun '07 10:59
    Originally posted by Esoteric
    The USA beat 9 below average teams out of their last 10 wins and some fans seem to be getting ahead of themselves.

    Personally I think they are still quite far from being a real world class team as they consistently fail to perform on a elite stage and should get trounced in the Copa America (if the South American teams field in their full strength squads).

    Any thoughts to the otherwise?
    The same could be said about the English team, except they struggle against the mediocre opponents.
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    26 Jun '07 11:33
    I'm sure Copa America will be the best gauge of how good the team is. Cant go far wrong with Jonathen Spectre in your team though. I'll certainly be cheering the USA on.
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    26 Jun '07 14:131 edit
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Did you actually see any of the games?
    I do indeed. Pay TV is a marvellous thing.
  8. Standard memberPalynka
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    26 Jun '07 14:35
    Originally posted by Esoteric
    I do indeed. Pay TV is a marvellous thing.
    You do or you did? I'm unconvinced.
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    26 Jun '07 15:01
    Originally posted by Daemon Sin
    The same could be said about the English team, except they struggle against the mediocre opponents.
    The stats show England are the 5th most successful team in World Cup history:

    http://www.rdasilva.demon.co.uk/football/wc/wc_stat.html

    So it's not true that we 'consistently fail to perform on the world stage'.

    As for the US, they like a bit of Gold Cup action:

    http://www.rdasilva.demon.co.uk/football/cng/cng_stat.html

    but that's not a big competition. They need to improve in Copa America, though they are 160 games behind Argentina:

    http://www.rdasilva.demon.co.uk/football/ca/ca_stat.html
  10. Standard memberSeitse
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    26 Jun '07 15:30
    *cough cough*

    So... how many world cups for England?

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    26 Jun '07 15:39
    Originally posted by Seitse
    *cough cough*

    So... how many world cups for England?

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    That's off-topic. 😏
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    26 Jun '07 15:57
    Originally posted by ElleEffSeee
    That's off-topic. 😏
    lmao πŸ™‚

    No, seriously speaking, I like a lot how England plays and I do
    consider them one of the big Europeans and notable worldwide.

    But I do think Esoteric is harsh when speaking about Concacaf...
    yes, Trinidad and Barbados may not be world powers, but the U.S.
    and specially Mexico are very good 2nd class contenders in the world.

    That they are forced to play with other Concacaf teams is
    independent of their good and consistent games, i.e. US v. Germany,
    Mexico v. Argentina, etc.
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    26 Jun '07 16:26
    Originally posted by Dapablo
    I'm sure Copa America will be the best gauge of how good the team is. Cant go far wrong with Jonathen Spectre in your team though. I'll certainly be cheering the USA on.
    Gotta love the way Bradley has Team USA playing...I'll be rooting for them too.

    The Gold Cup was tremendously exciting this year.
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    26 Jun '07 16:28
    Originally posted by Seitse
    *cough cough*

    So... how many world cups for England?

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    Just the one way back in 1966.

    It was England's only trip to the final four.
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    26 Jun '07 16:40
    Originally posted by Dapablo
    I'm sure Copa America will be the best gauge of how good the team is. Cant go far wrong with Jonathen Spectre in your team though. I'll certainly be cheering the USA on.
    Not really. The USA is playing with a younger, more inexperienced squad than what they usually use. And why not? The stakes in Copa America aren't that high for the USA since they already won the Gold Cup. I believe Bradley is using Copa America as an opportunity to give his younger players experience in a very competitive tournament.
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