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    Who didn't see that coming after Kubiak destroyed keenum's confidence. Shaub wasn't the answer and winning wasn't going to save your job, selling the future was the only option.
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    I think your thread should bang Darvlay's thread. What's wrong with you, MC? You're trying to break all the news on RHP today?
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    06 Dec '13 17:50
    Originally posted by sasquatch672
    I think your thread should bang Darvlay's thread. What's wrong with you, MC? You're trying to break all the news on RHP today?
    I must have posted mine near the same time as him. He must have a great mind to think like me.
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    06 Dec '13 17:54
    Originally posted by sasquatch672
    I think your thread should bang Darvlay's thread. What's wrong with you, MC? You're trying to break all the news on RHP today?
    Hi to you too, Samsquamtch.
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    Originally posted by darvlay
    Hi to you too, Samsquamtch.
    I said hi to you in YOUR thread, Darv, you ol' Canadian you!
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    06 Dec '13 19:47
    Originally posted by MISTER CHESS
    Who didn't see that coming after Kubiak destroyed keenum's confidence. Shaub wasn't the answer and winning wasn't going to save your job, selling the future was the only option.
    WTH, Keenum is and will be another in the long line of heralded UH QB's who fall on their ass in the NFL.

    Started with Andre Ware to David Klingler, Chuck Clements, Kevin Kolb.

    He was so highly thought of by NFL scouts that he was undrafted and stayed on the Texans practice squad an entire year with no one making a
    claim on him. He is a good kid, but the NFL isn't college. The reads are
    much tougher and the seat of the pants playmaking won't keep you in many
    ballgames.
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    06 Dec '13 20:06
    Originally posted by shortcircuit
    WTH, Keenum is and will be another in the long line of heralded UH QB's who fall on their ass in the NFL.

    Started with Andre Ware to David Klingler, Chuck Clements, Kevin Kolb.

    He was so highly thought of by NFL scouts that he was undrafted and stayed on the Texans practice squad an entire year with no one making a
    claim on him. He is a good kid, ...[text shortened]... reads are
    much tougher and the seat of the pants playmaking won't keep you in many
    ballgames.
    That's not the point, the point is that Shaub is clearly not the answer and selling Keenum and the future was the only viable option for Kubiak to keep his job.
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    06 Dec '13 20:46
    Originally posted by MISTER CHESS
    That's not the point, the point is that Shaub is clearly not the answer and selling Keenum and the future was the only viable option for Kubiak to keep his job.
    I am absolutely in agreement that Schaub is not the answer.
    I have never been a huge fan of the prototypical plodder QB.
    If he can't scramble, then he damn well better be able to get rid of the ball
    quickly and accurately.
    Early on with the Texans, he had success with that. Then teams figured
    out that he was vertically challenged and tended to throw quick outs.
    They started sitting on those patterns and poaching him.
    This season he became a telegraph and then a doe in the headlights.
    Now he is damaged goods. he was never the long term answer, but
    Kubiak liked him and stuck by him.
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    10 Dec '13 05:06
    Originally posted by MISTER CHESS
    Who didn't see that coming after Kubiak destroyed keenum's confidence. Shaub wasn't the answer and winning wasn't going to save your job, selling the future was the only option.
    I think, since this team is not gong to the playoffs anyway, that its a little tacky to fire a coach with three games to go who had a stroke on the sidelines during one of the games. Would it have mattered if they waited until the end of the season?
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    10 Dec '13 05:23
    Originally posted by Bobla45
    I think, since this team is not gong to the playoffs anyway, that its a little tacky to fire a coach with three games to go who had a stroke on the sidelines during one of the games. Would it have mattered if they waited until the end of the season?
    Why pay a coach who can't get the job done with multiple pro bowlers on both sides of the ball? This is a team built for winning.
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    Originally posted by MISTER CHESS
    Why pay a coach who can't get the job done with multiple pro bowlers on both sides of the ball? This is a team built for winning.
    Technically, they are paying him for his entire contract whether he coaches or not,
    so your argument is not really valid.

    The reason they fired him now was two-fold.
    First , Bob McNair is especially fond of Kubiak, as are many of the players.
    Once it became obvious that they were going to have to make changes to
    soothe the fan base in Houston, rather than leave him dangling in the wind
    for three more games, they cut him loose now. Gary Kubiak is a class
    person, and I think it was hard for McNair to do because of that, but when
    he did let him go, he did it with respect and class toward Gary.

    The second reason they cut him now was so they could get a jump on the
    process of finding Kubiak's replacement. It absolutely will not be Wade
    Phillips, so there is no harm letting him run the show while they shop for the
    new head coach, because they announced that Phillips is also a candidate.
    Wade Phillips will more than likely be let go when the new coach comes in,
    because typically coaches like to have their choices at coordinator positions.

    The names for replacement are flying around here. Most are conjecture.
    Lovie Smith will get a look and he is from Texas. Ken Whisenhut will also
    get a look. Other names being tossed around are Jon Gruden (unlikely),
    Jay Gruden (possibility), Mike Shanahan (no way), Bill Cowher (unlikely),
    Kevin Sumlin (not a chance), Bill O'Brien (certainly hope not), David Shaw
    (unlikely).

    Mc Nair wants someone with head coaching experience as well as NFL experience
    and has said as such. That is not to say, he won't change his mind, but
    he does not want to tear this team apart and start again. And truthfully,
    he shouldn't have to if he gets the right coach.

    Personally, I would love to see Jon Gruden. The lure of the top pick in the
    draft and a pretty solid team may be enough to get him out of the booth.
    Not sure Gruden's ego and Mc Nair would get along though. Lovie Smith is
    a possibility, but only if they can get a stud OC, because, as he showed in
    Chicago, his offense sucked, but his defense was stout. Odd's are Ken
    Whisenhut may be the guy, although he is not an automatic by any stretch
    of the imagination. I guess we will see over the next few weeks. They are
    auditioning Case Keenum the next 3 weeks. Unfortunately, he is not the
    answer either. He may be a reasonable back up QB, but I do not see him as
    a starting QB in the NFL.
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    11 Dec '13 00:15
    Originally posted by shortcircuit
    Technically, they are paying him for his entire contract whether he coaches or not,
    so your argument is not really valid.

    The reason they fired him now was two-fold.
    First , Bob McNair is especially fond of Kubiak, as are many of the players.
    Once it became obvious that they were going to have to make changes to
    soothe the fan base in Houston, ra ...[text shortened]... er either. He may be a reasonable back up QB, but I do not see him as
    a starting QB in the NFL.
    You will be lucky to get Ken whisenhunt if you can't get gruden. Arians is getting a lot of credit in Arizona for what Ken built there, The difference is a stable QB station.
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