1. Standard memberuzless
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    09 Nov '09 18:312 edits
    The premiership has 20 teams. I've removed the top 5 teams.

    Can someone tell me what chances these teams had of winning the championship before the season had even started? Would any of you bet money on any of these teams winning the championship?


    6 Manchester City
    7 Liverpool
    8 Sunderland
    9 Stoke City
    10 Burnley
    11 Fulham
    12 Everton
    13 Wigan Athletic
    14 Blackburn Rovers
    15 Birmingham City
    16 Bolton Wanderers
    17 Hull City
    18 West Ham United
    19 Wolverhampton
    20 Portsmouth
  2. Standard memberFleabitten
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    09 Nov '09 18:47
    Not only would I not have bet on any of the listed teams winning the title, I wouldn't have put any money on Villa or Tottenham, either. I would have put a small amount on Arsenal, but only if the odds were favorable (i.e. >15 to 1).
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    09 Nov '09 18:52
    What you fail to see is that this has had little impact on its popularity. To understand why, you would need to understand what type of fans smaller clubs have and why they stick with their clubs through good and bad times.
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    09 Nov '09 18:55
    Originally posted by Palynka
    What you fail to see is that this has had little impact on its popularity. To understand why, you would need to understand what type of fans smaller clubs have and why they stick with their clubs through good and bad times.
    Not only the fans, but the fact that there is drama at all ends of the table. Watching Hull back out of relegation on the last day of the season was great theatre.
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    09 Nov '09 18:56
    Originally posted by Fleabitten
    Not only the fans, but the fact that there is drama at all ends of the table. Watching Hull back out of relegation on the last day of the season was great theatre.
    Ah i see. Let them eat cake?
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    09 Nov '09 18:57
    Originally posted by Palynka
    What you fail to see is that this has had little impact on its popularity. To understand why, you would need to understand what type of fans smaller clubs have and why they stick with their clubs through good and bad times.
    Idiots. You're talking about idiots right?
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    09 Nov '09 19:01
    Originally posted by uzless
    Ah i see. Let them eat cake?
    Not necessarily. More like 'Let them be entertained.'
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    09 Nov '09 19:15
    Originally posted by uzless
    Idiots. You're talking about idiots right?
    You think fans should follow success? 😵

    We call them glory-hunters and laugh at them.
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    09 Nov '09 21:241 edit
    Originally posted by Palynka
    You think fans should follow success? 😵

    We call them glory-hunters and laugh at them.
    In Canada we call them Toronto Maple Leaf fans...except there's never any glory.
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    09 Nov '09 22:59
    Originally posted by uzless
    Would any of you bet money on any of these teams winning the championship?

    6 Manchester City
    7 Liverpool
    8 Sunderland
    9 Stoke City
    10 Burnley
    11 Fulham
    12 Everton
    13 Wigan Athletic
    14 Blackburn Rovers
    15 Birmingham City
    16 Bolton Wanderers
    17 Hull City
    18 West Ham United
    19 Wolverhampton
    20 Portsmouth
    Name the odds! I'll accept any bet you're willing to put on any of those teams, OR the other 5 you removed, winning the Championship!

    D
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    10 Nov '09 00:28
    Originally posted by Ragnorak
    Name the odds! I'll accept any bet you're willing to put on any of those teams, OR the other 5 you removed, winning the Championship!

    D
    Well, not this year they won't. Portsmouth next year, maybe.
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    10 Nov '09 00:49
    Originally posted by Fleabitten
    Well, not this year they won't. Portsmouth next year, maybe.
    Ha! Pompei has a better chance of winning the Coca Cola Championship next year.
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    10 Nov '09 07:53
    There's a lot more to competing in a league like the Premier other than "winning
    the title" (sic! ~Canadian)

    Playing in one of the major leagues of Europe (England, Spain, Italy, Germany,
    Netherlands, France, etc.) is about the city or regional derby, about playing the big
    team once or twice a season and seeing the big stars balling on the turf of your
    home stadium, about competing for the league cup, about making it to the
    European slots of the table, about playing teams of other countries... about the
    game.

    Hey, football in general is beautiful... but then again it would be hard to explain it
    to a non-believer.
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    10 Nov '09 08:37
    Originally posted by Seitse
    There's a lot more to competing in a league like the Premier other than "winning
    the title" (sic! ~Canadian)

    Playing in one of the major leagues of Europe (England, Spain, Italy, Germany,
    Netherlands, France, etc.) is about the city or regional derby, about playing the big
    team once or twice a season and seeing the big stars balling on the turf of your ...[text shortened]... in general is beautiful... but then again it would be hard to explain it
    to a non-believer.
    Agreed.

    Uzless, when you have a league that's been running since 1888 (if you ignore the split) you're going to have well established teams that dominate. You're going to end up with one of these dominating teams winning the league, there might be some surprises every few seasons, but the real joy is watching the games themselves, not watching the table.
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    10 Nov '09 10:19
    Originally posted by uzless
    Can someone tell me what chances these teams had of winning the championship before the season had even started? Would any of you bet money on any of these teams winning the championship?

    ...
    7 Liverpool
    2nd place last time, bookies had them at 11-4. Anyone that says they never had a chance this season is engaging in a bit of 20-20 hindsight.
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