Originally posted by Tirau Dan
The Oceania Group is total twaddle and should really be part of SE Asia or a Pacific Rim Group with some of the SE Asian teams.
I still can't understand how Australia managed to wangle a swap to the Asia group when they are Oceanic. They asked for it and got it. It smacks solidly of coruption 😉
There could be the conspiracy theory: Because Aus was rounded team capable of performing upsets but what s diff Nelso would make to the qualifiers.
The Oceania Group is total twaddle -
Twaddle or not New Zealand like Australia for many years qualified for the 1 oceania position....but because the winning nation of oceania then go's on to play a nation who previously failed to qualify in their own zone, that to me gives a good impression of what Fifa think of Oceania... all 10 oceania Teams deserve to participate equally in the world cup qualifiers as any other nation around the world, but for the winner of Oceania they only have half a chance of qualifying even after winning the group zone, by then being forced to play a another game outside their zone, why have the Oceania Zone at all then?.....further more to be fair to all participants of Oceania New Zealand should have to also participate in the opening round of the Oceania Qualifying group, just like everyone else.
I still can't understand how Australia managed to wangle a swap to the Asia group when they are Oceanic. They asked for it and got it. It smacks solidly of coruption 😉 doesn't corruption have something to do with who the refs award cheap penalty's too?
The American Samoa's and Cook Islands should have the same right's as any other nation in their zone to participate even if they do lose 16-0 to nations like fiji......in saying that New Zealand shouldn't get any favours either, just because they are the strongest team in the group, * By particpating in the earlier rounds of the tournaments the lower teams also deal with the prospect they may lose players from being sent off, so the same situation should be presented to New Zealand,
and By allowing Australia to move to Asia once again clarify's what Fifa really think of Oceania.
should really be part of SE Asia or a Pacific Rim Group with some of the SE Asian teams.
I agree!! Scrap Oceania, but not the teams as they all deserve equal rights and equal qualification opportunitys to the world cup as their much larger and stronger opponants (its a waste of time playing all those games for Oceania when the bottom line is Fifa dont want Oceania in their world cup because its a weak group)...all teams of the Oceania and Asian groups should play as one zone and be a part of the round 1 qualifications groups, (No exclusions or exceptions, or Byes)...no matter how big or small they may be, all should equally participate.
NZ has proven they can beat Aus, but only when we have our English players.. which never happens. on the odd occaission NZ have caused a boil over against the Socceroos, But as far as Europeon based players go, Australia are also most of the time in the same situation, but both teams have some great local talent also so dont be too discouraged., ...always rated Vaughan Coveny as a reasonable player for nz but not sure if he still represents NZ?