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  1. Behind the scenes
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    26 Jan '19 09:31
    They practice in the mud and rain. They don't draft superstars, they draft hard workers. They don't go there to have fun, they go there to win. Love them, or hate them, you have to respect Belichick and the Patriots

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/01/12/bill-belichick-philosophy-nfl-coaches-blanket-coverage

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000902797/article/new-england-patriots-battle-snow-to-practice-thursday
  2. Standard membercaissad4
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    26 Jan '19 12:22
    @mchill said
    They practice in the mud and rain. They don't draft superstars, they draft hard workers. They don't go there to have fun, they go there to win. Love them, or hate them, you have to respect Belichick and the Patriots

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/01/12/bill-belichick-philosophy-nfl-coaches-blanket-coverage

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000902797/article/new-england-patriots-battle-snow-to-practice-thursday
    I grew up in Boston in the 60's. I am a big Patriot fan., used to listen on the radio every Sunday. Back then the 2 worst teams were the Saints and Patriots. Whenever I hear anyone say that they hate the Pats I remind them that they paid their dues for many years. After all, their first Super Bowl was 2001. I was rooting for a Brady vs Brees SB this year.
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    26 Jan '19 12:59
    @caissad4 said
    I grew up in Boston in the 60's. I am a big Patriot fan., used to listen on the radio every Sunday. Back then the 2 worst teams were the Saints and Patriots. Whenever I hear anyone say that they hate the Pats I remind them that they paid their dues for many years. After all, their first Super Bowl was 2001. I was rooting for a Brady vs Brees SB this year.
    2001 Was our first win. We lost a well played Super Bowl to the Packers in the late 90's, but the one I will never forget was in 85, when we were a wild card team, and played the Jets, Raiders, and Dolphins all on the road, and won them all. This was 1985 or January 1986, we had not beaten the Dolphins at home since 1969, thats 16 or 17 years, kind of like what we do to the Bills now......to win those 3 games on the road, it took a turnover differential of +12! Tahs right, those 3 teams collectively gave us the ball on turnovers 12 more times than we did. Our reward was to have to go to the Super Bowl and play the arguably best single-season defense put together in the history of pro football, the Bears. And they slaughtered us 46-10. And it wasnt even THAT close
  4. Zugzwang
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    26 Jan '19 21:161 edit
    @mchill said
    They practice in the mud and rain. They don't draft superstars, they draft hard workers. They don't go there to have fun, they go there to win. Love them, or hate them, you have to respect Belichick and the Patriots

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/01/12/bill-belichick-philosophy-nfl-coaches-blanket-coverage

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000902797/article/new-england-patriots-battle-snow-to-practice-thursday
    The New England Patriots also spy, if not also attempt to cheat in other ways.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/espn-report-patriots-spygate-scandal-2015-9

    "Bombshell ESPN report says Patriots' 'Spygate' scandal was way worse than people realized"

    "According to a bombshell report from ESPN's "Outside the Lines," the Spygate
    scandal — in which the Patriots were caught videotaping opponents' defensive
    signals — is perhaps the primary reason the NFL tried to nail them for Deflategate.

    The report details Spygate as we've never heard it, painting a picture of systematic cheating
    that went way further and looks way worse for the Patriots than people previously realized."

    "Other methods of cheating reportedly include:
    Sending low-level Patriots employees to sneak into the visiting locker room during
    pregame warm-ups and steal the play sheet. As Van Natta and Wickersham note,
    "The practice became so notorious that some coaches put out fake play sheets for the Patriots to swipe."
    Sending employees through the visiting team's hotel to try to swipe playbooks and scouting reports.
    "Scrambling and jamming" opponent radio headsets to interfere with opponent communication."

    "There, investigators found "a room accessible only to Belichick and a few others"
    with a "library of scouting material containing videotapes of opponents' signals,
    with detailed notes matching signals to plays for many teams going back seven seasons."

    However, as Van Natta and Wickersham report, "almost as quickly as the tapes and
    notes were found, they were destroyed, on Goodell's orders: League executives stomped
    the tapes into pieces and shredded the papers inside a Gillette Stadium conference room."

    The report says the Patriots never told the league how many games they filmed
    and offered up only eight tapes, and the league never asked.

    Goodell was accused by some owners of sweeping the issue under the rug and
    helping out his close friend, Patriots owner Robert Kraft."

    http://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/13533995/split-nfl-new-england-patriots-apart

    Of course, many Americans embrace a 'win-at-all-costs' ethos and admire
    successful cheating (as long as it's not done by Chinese).
  5. Behind the scenes
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    27 Jan '19 11:32
    @Duchess64

    Now Duchess is an authority on the NFL??

    I think not.
  6. Zugzwang
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    30 Jan '19 20:32
    @mchill said
    @Duchess64

    Now Duchess is an authority on the NFL??

    I think not.
    Mchill attempts an ad hominem attack rather than deal with the ESPN article.

    The NFL teams whom the New England Patriots evidently cheated against may
    not share Mchill's fawning opinion of the New England Patriots.
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