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mlb62

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15829
09 Jul 22

What is the policy of this site regarding Double abandoned games?
What if BOTH players simple stop moving..does the game remain "active" forever, for all eternity ? This is assuming no-one claims a win using the skull button.

RHP Code Monkey

RHP HQ

Joined
21 Feb 01
Moves
2424
11 Jul 22
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If just a regular challenge (non-clan or tournament game) then it will get cleared up eventually (Deleted) in a house-keeping job.

There is little point in awarding the win if neither player is present.

mlb62

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11 Jul 22
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Game 13097566

TY so as an example..in this game, white hasn't answered since Oct 2021 and Black will not claim the skull win...it will stay until a house "clean-up" but in this case, Black player is still very active, playing many other games.

chemist

Linkenheim

Joined
22 Apr 05
Moves
656864
12 Jul 22

@ogb said
Game 13097566

TY so as an example..in this game, white hasn't answered since Oct 2021 and Black will not claim the skull win...it will stay until a house "clean-up" but in this case, Black player is still very active, playing many other games.
In fact I wait for one year until I claim a skull in afriendly (and have lost games to housekeeping, when there was no message beforehand.

This Game 14458223 is currently my oldets game.

Sometimes people come back vene afeter long time.

mlb62

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12 Jul 22

@Ponderable
Even if this person returns after nearly a year, you have a massive advantage of material. He has zero chance of even a draw. What is the point of waiting any longer? you're only risking the chance of the game being "closed out" with no rating gain. Are you trying to be some kind of hero?

chemist

Linkenheim

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656864
12 Jul 22

@ogb said
@Ponderable
Even if this person returns after nearly a year, you have a massive advantage of material. He has zero chance of even a draw. What is the point of waiting any longer? you're only risking the chance of the game being "closed out" with no rating gain. Are you trying to be some kind of hero?
Well this is just a rule I give myself, regardless of actual position. I have encountered people in the past who would rather go down on time than by chekmate...

My main target is not to achieve a high rating (I think I reached 1500 at some moement) but to have fun with the game 😉

Dave

S.Yorks.England

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83992
12 Jul 22

@ponderable said
Well this is just a rule I give myself, regardless of actual position. I have encountered people in the past who would rather go down on time than by chekmate...

My main target is not to achieve a high rating (I think I reached 1500 at some moement) but to have fun with the game 😉
I am of a similar persuasion.
I come on here to play chess and don't really care about my rating.The rating system is flawed anyway.I think it should be calculated on rating when the game starts,not finishes but that is another issue which has been debated before.
If I start a game against a player rated say 1500,he is timed out due to illness so his rating drops to 1000 for example because people time him out and then he returns and beats me I lose a lot more rating points.If I win, I gain fewer.One reason why I don't care about rating

mlb62

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15829
12 Jul 22

@venda
ok you bring up some valid points....I'm sure it's been mentioned before, but why not have the website enforce the skull timeouts after a week or so. That way, the opponent can still feel good about himself for not clicking on the skull button..

Dave

S.Yorks.England

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13 Jul 22

@ogb said
@venda
ok you bring up some valid points....I'm sure it's been mentioned before, but why not have the website enforce the skull timeouts after a week or so. That way, the opponent can still feel good about himself for not clicking on the skull button..
Setting the time limit would be the problem, particularly for the shorter time frame games.We never know what is in store for us.If I am in a car crash and lie incapacitated in hospital for 2 weeks should I just write off my games?
Also bear in mind the timeout protection flag(wrongly labelled the vacation flag) is not available to non subs,so if I am unexpectedly called away for some reason I have no means of protecting my games other than asking my opponents not to time me out.

Pawn Whisperer

My Kingdom fora Pawn

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06 Sep 22

This is as close as I can get to my problem. For @Russ or anyone that knows:

I am in a club tournament and my opponent skulled out.
Iwas under the impression that in ladder games and tournament games that are skulled, the Bot TD
will take the skulls, which seems fair, so as not to tie up the tourney or ladder. But in my case (club tourney) this has not happened.

What is the rule? thanks in advance.

chemist

Linkenheim

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07 Sep 22

@earl-of-trumps said
This is as close as I can get to my problem. For @Russ or anyone that knows:

I am in a club tournament and my opponent skulled out.
Iwas under the impression that in ladder games and tournament games that are skulled, the Bot TD
will take the skulls, which seems fair, so as not to tie up the tourney or ladder. But in my case (club tourney) this has not happened.

What is the rule? thanks in advance.
If you refer to Tournament 43045: It is the final round you are not tying up anything 😉

Pawn Whisperer

My Kingdom fora Pawn

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08 Sep 22

Thanks, Pondy