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  1. Standard membersh76
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    09 Apr '24 14:10
    @spruce112358 said
    Negotiating hasn't worked and probably never could work.

    A solution, if it comes, will only come from the outside and will be imposed with overwhelming military force, much to the dismay of both sides.

    But, on a positive note, that will end the conflict. Finally.
    Enforced by whom? And by what measures? Enforced on both sides equally or only on one side? Who dictates the terms?

    I'm not saying your idea is a bad one, but these are very thorny questions with no easy answers.
  2. Standard membersh76
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    09 Apr '24 12:34
    @spruce112358 said
    No. As I said, unwinding all of the effects of colonialism is impossible - and gets more impossible with time.

    Many descendants of displaced persons DO live in countries where their rights are protected - you do, for example.

    We just have to address the people that are presently in limbo and have no such protections, from any country.
    Negotiating them a state where they sit now seems the logical course of action. Of course, they also have to agree not to war on their neighbors.

    And therein, as the bard would say, lies the rub.
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    09 Apr '24 12:11
    @spruce112358 said
    On Nov 9th, 1917, Britain gave European Zionists permission to set up a colony in Palestine. Naturally, none of the people living in Palestine at the time were asked if they wanted to be colonized.

    Over the next 31 years, migrants arriving mostly from Poland and Russia but also the rest of Europe, America and elsewhere caused tensions to rise in Palestine. Finally, in ...[text shortened]... see what happens next.

    The end of the last gasp of colonialism in human history is long overdue.
    Do you want to force repatriation of every descendant of a displaced person or just Palestinians?

    Do I get my grandfather's apartment in Berlin back?
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    09 Apr '24 12:07
    @sonhouse said
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/14/mississippi-abortion-ban-girl-raped-gives-birth

    So a 13 yo girl is forced to have the child of rape, really great you FUKKING ASSSHOLE REPUBLICANS. You are not even republicans anymore, you are under the total control of X45.
    Actually, in this case, it's the tail wagging the dog. Trump himself was never really anti-abortion and he's been twisting in the wind to try to satisfy his base on that particular issue.

    This story is odd, since Mississippi law does allow abortion in case of rape (which was reported in this case). The Guardian's article addresses this, but does so very poorly. It references the law, says it was reported and then moves to a different issue without explaining. Strange. πŸ€”
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    08 Apr '24 20:06
    @sonhouse said
    @Sleepyguy
    same here. My testers went I got only two wrongπŸ™‚
    Extra. I guess we have to PM calls, eh. I have been trying to figure out how to put my 80 meter wire up, even though it is half that, I only have 120 feet diagonally and need 130 or so. My house is in the way, big sucker, three story colonial from 1880 and trees in front are some 60 feet up but I tried everythin ...[text shortened]... y USCF is near the same as RHP rating here.
    I seem to remember ONE time actually beating an 1800πŸ™‚
    Hi, Doug.
  6. Standard membersh76
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    08 Apr '24 18:36
    @sleepyguy said
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    I told you so.

    (but I don't remember it)

    edit: I just added a new quote to my profile πŸ™‚
    LOL!
  7. Standard membersh76
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    @sonhouse said
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    So was that FMF did that? I would not be surprised. I assume he or whoever it was just had you come out as Jewish. OMG You are a JEW? If I had known I would never have talked to youπŸ™‚ BTW, I lived in Jerusalem for 3 years so that WAS a jokeπŸ™‚
    Did whoever it was give out your real name and address and home photo from Google? If so I would bet it was FMF doxing you.
    ...[text shortened]... versaries here. Me, my heritage is Irish, I carry my emotions on my sleeve. They do get my Irish up.
    It wasn't FMF. I got to know FMF a bit years ago on other platforms and he's really a nice guy. I don't know why he did that to you, but I would never assume he would do something like that.

    I do have a suspicion that it was a specific forum regular using a pseudonym handle (is that a redundancy?) but I have no evidence, and that person is no longer a forum regular anyway.
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    08 Apr '24 17:201 edit
    @spruce112358 said
    That's unfortunate.

    I only ever stumbled on one real identity in these Forums - PinkFloyd.

    I asked him "How is {location}?" And he said, "How did you know that?"

    I never told anyone, though. That wouldn't be cricket.
    A couple of times I've basically given away my identity. Once, after I did so, Sleepyguy pm'ed me to lecture me about not giving away my identity on this forum. I poo-poohed it, thinking that it was no big deal.

    Then, about a year later, I mentioned in some random post that I was Jewish, and got 5 pm's from the same nut about what he was going to do to me, how much he hated my kind and the like.

    I then realized SG was right.
  9. Standard membersh76
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    08 Apr '24 17:11
    @spruce112358 said
    The Golden Age of Debates... 2009.

    US Debt to GDP ratio stood at 82% - about $12 trillion. Today we stand at 120% and inflation has become a problem. As one would predict. Keep inflating the money supply and inflation happens - it's impossible to stop.
    See... I knew you were a closet conservative. πŸ˜‰
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    @sonhouse said
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    If you say soπŸ™‚ I added my bit about D64 too in an edit.
    The reason I call Trump the fascist orange antiChrist is it is well known he IS the greatest threat to democracy we have had in over one hundred years.
    No question she was intelligent, but was not interested in any conviviality or banter. She was just interested in burying you in a mountain of argument and insult. A "bit acerbic" is a massive understatement. There was a poster long ago named zeeblebot who would mostly post long copy and pastes and little else. But at least he showed some humanity and did joke around now and then. D64 merely behaved like ChatGPT if you told it to be hostile and insulting. Even when she did "joke around" it felt like a computer simulation of joking around. No doubt it was not her fault, as people with ASD don't realize they're being anti-social, but there's no question it sucked the life out of the forum.
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    08 Apr '24 15:05
    @sonhouse said
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    All well and good but FMF did me dirty VERY dirty. I was in a conversation with an Aussie ham, amateur radio dude if you don't know what being a ham is, I mentioned my ham call sign in a conversation I thought I was having with that lady down under.
    Well the great FMF took my call sign, looked it up, not a huge problem to do, then posted my real name, my real address ...[text shortened]... though for me nothing outside of RHP hapened.
    So I don't miss that assswipe FMF in the slightest.
    Nobody should dox people in this forum. That was the wrong thing to do.

    He was still good for this forum, though.
  12. Standard membersh76
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    @kmax87 said
    I think people were definitely more self aware and would acknowledge that there were other points of view that were also valid. So it happened occasionally but it happened.
    Even you used to be much more deliberately and humorously mischievous (and mysterious, at times).

    I hope you don't mind my saying so, but your RHP persona was neutered, either by age or by the D64 era, or both.
  13. Standard membersh76
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    Back in 2010/2011, although there was plenty of nonsense and mudslinging as well, people were interested in real conversations.

    Now it's mostly "you're a freak" this and "your orange God" that. There are still some good conversations, but they're buried in garbage.

    Today, I think people actually sound dumber on this forum than they are in real life. Averagejoe is probably a smart guy in real life, but he gets to sound like a broken record here. Sonhouse is probably a very smart guy in real life, but he just sounds apoplectic much of the time here.

    The loss of FMF on this board (he still is on other boards on this site, but won't come here for some reason) was enormous. Love him or hate him (and there was more of the latter), his savage one-liners and wry wit lent an air of frenemy banter.

    Then the D64 era (which lasted a long time) just sucked all the life out of the board. Suddenly, instead of a bunch of reasonably bright people slinging yo mama jokes while occasionally arguing seriously, the forum was one big exercise in fighting with AngryGPT.

    The forum can recover, but we need more threads like this where people talk on a personal level, not just "fu k Reagonomics" or "libs r turds"

    Getting back people like FMF and Melanerpes and Teinosuke would also help, if possible.
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    08 Apr '24 14:44
    @spruce112358 said
    @sh76, I was intrigued to find this post in Thread 134753 in your profile:

    RHP Supreme Court
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    In all honesty, Mel would probably be a better fit than I due to his lack of partisanship; but of course, that very factor means he'd never win the primary! πŸ˜‰ 

    My tripartisan Court, putting aside myself for the moment: 

    Lean right: 

    Spruce112358  ...[text shortened]... hatever happened to whodey? He would be happy as a pig in ... this incarnation of the Debates Forum.
    I miss the days of threads like this:

    https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/debates/challenge-to-telerion-palynka-kazetnagora-sh76.120399

    Thread 120399
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    05 Apr '24 12:33
    @mott-the-hoople said
    "Yesterday, the Biden administration continued their attacks on the private sector option for seniors on Medicare, Medicare Advantage. This is the second cut in two years. This latest round of cuts will cost seniors an extra $33 per month. That’s a $396 per year rate increase for a cohort largely on fixed incomes and still reeling from terrible inflation. Medicare Adv ...[text shortened]... . [/b]

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/04/03/joe-biden-moves-to-slash-medicare-advantage/
    Finally, some responsible fiscal policy.
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