Suggestion - Undo

Originally posted by FabianFnas
There are different ways to teach chess. I use the 'UFO method'.
When my pupil makes a move which is clearly bad, a real blunder, I say out loud "Oh, see that, an UFO!" And leave my attention from the board, My pupil has during ten seconds or so to find his error, and correct it. When my attention comes back to the board we start from there. If he hasn' ...[text shortened]... should be an option for it from the beginning so we both agree to the takeback possibility.

Again I say face-to-face is different.
FTF you can quickly demonstrate why the move is bad.
You yourself may spot why the move was played because of something
you just said that has been misunderstood. Or the student may have
been distracted. You are there you have seen the move being played.

Ignore face to face teaching.

The request is for a take back option for internet games played on this site.

For reasons stated earlier I'm against it.

If you think this is a good idea why not start another game fom the
position before the error and get them to play another move.

But play out the game with the original error.

You may end up with three or four games, so what?
You have undertaken the task of assisting a player you must be
prepared to put some effort in.

Simply PM'ing the guy.

"Hey that move losses a piece - play something else."
is totally pointless.

You must show them why a move is bad.
They must get their fingers burn't, they have to see how hopless
it is being a piece down against a good player.

Finally, a 'take back' option would show this site in a bad light.
What are we trying to do here play Chess or a variation of Chess.

Games would be false - how would anyone playing over a game know
a move has been taken back?

This idea would demean the site and worse, it would demean the
Royal Game itself.

Originally posted by greenpawn34
Again I say face-to-face is different.
FTF you can quickly demonstrate why the move is bad.
You yourself may spot why the move was played because of something
you just said that has been misunderstood. Or the student may have
been distracted. You are there you have seen the move being played.

Ignore face to face teaching.

The request is for a t ...[text shortened]... ck?

This idea would demean the site and worse, it would demean the
Royal Game itself.

And again I say that there are different teaching methods. One is good for some pupils, another is good for others. None is good for everyone.

I support the this undo-proposal. But it demands some programming, so I think it will take some time to implement it anyway. There are other proposals that have priority over this one.

Agree different pupils of different strengths/age require different methods
but think teaching over the net is very hard.

The option was put forward as a teaching aid.

There are some good Clans & Clubs on here that appear to be working
fine without allowing moves to be taken back.

If there is any form of programming required then it's a No No anyway.

I have been watching this discussion with interest over today.

So I think I will put my two pence worth in as well 😀

I have no objection if both parties agree to it and it does not count towards any rating or win or loss statistics. If it does effect any off my statement, then yes I would mind.

I have introduced two people as non subs to this site. These have been novice chess players, both are now inactive. Why are they inactive? because they get hammered every game. Maybe if they got taught properly they may just be better players and even become subs.

I not would envisage saying that, if you move there you will lose a pawn. But by saying if you move there I will take your rook and then queen, do you wish to reconsider?

The point has been made without humiliating the new player, by destroying him on the board. Hopefully by saying that the new player will be made more aware and will understand the concept of the game better. At least this way, the player does not lose interest. We have all had to learn in the past.

My Grandad taught me the game of chess and it was certainly by not destroying me on the board. He would say to me, if you make move x, y will happen (only if a major error). I could then move the piece back and reconsider my move. This went on for some time, but with each error I would understand the concepts of the game slightly better. Until the time come when I had no help. It was the best day of my life when I finally beat him as a twelve year old.

If he had destroyed me, I probably would not have carried on and I would not be part of this website now.

Originally posted by GalaKev
I have been watching this discussion with interest over today.

So I think I will put my two pence worth in as well 😀

I have no objection if both parties agree to it and it does not count towards any rating or win or loss statistics. If it does effect any off my statement, then yes I would mind.

I have introduced two people as non subs to this site. ...[text shortened]... destroyed me, I probably would not have carried on and I would not be part of this website now.

Good post but again face to face situation.

Had a think about this whilst 'off air' can see a benefit after all.
(a lot of my previous rant was of course a gag).

OK but for unrated games only.

So when they do get around to adding this, if the game is ticked as
unrated then the take back radio button will be displayed.

If it covered all games you would get blistering arguments as
players pleaded with their opponents to take back a move.

I've rec'd the first post.