My sperm is a part of my mates

My sperm is a part of my mates

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MB

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This is new.

https://newspunch.com/women-absorb-and-retain-dna-from-every-man-they-have-sex-with/

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A few things:

* The article you refer to is hardly scientific. It makes a big point to state that sceintiest are "confused" or "in denial". The original paper is found here: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0045592

* The thesis that DNA from every male sexual partner is leading to a "microchimerism" (mc) is stated but with only 63% of women having them it is highly speculative. In the paper of course no such conclusion is made since it would not survive peer review with such a low data base.

* Please refrain from posting journalistic exaggerations and try to stay to factual.

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https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0045592

"Male Microchimerism in the Human Female Brain" (2012)

Is an article in which the authors (William F. N. Chan ,Cécile Gurnot,Thomas J. Montine,Joshua A. Sonnen,Katherine A. Guthrie,J. Lee Nelson) look at the prevalece of mc's in women with a neurological illness normally associated with men.

They found that a very high percentage of women had male mc's in their brains. As reasons was especially pregnancies discussed. The authors don't claim to ahve found a sound explanation.

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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34293108/

A more recent study of "Male microchimerism in females: a quantitative study of twin pedigrees to investigate mechanisms"

The authors (B N Johnson, H E Peters, C B Lambalk, C V Dolan, G Willemsen, L Ligthart, V Mijatovic, J J Hottenga, E A Ehli, D I Boomsma) studied female twins and found no statistical differnce bewteen the twins.

So if we look at the original thesis of @Metal-Brain we have to assume that either the wtins ahd the same amount of partners, which I myself find highly unlikely.

There are more papers and findings out.

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@metal-brain said
This is new.

https://newspunch.com/
No, that site is getting very old indeed.

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@ponderable said
Is an article in which the authors (William F. N. Chan ,Cécile Gurnot,Thomas J. Montine,Joshua A. Sonnen,Katherine A. Guthrie,J. Lee Nelson) look at the prevalece of mc's in women with a neurological illness normally associated with men.
I find the very idea of a "male micro-chimerism" very dubious in the first place. It sounds all too much like they're blaming autism in women on "internalised toxic masculinity". (Which, in fact, I have heard feminists do, except not with a neurological sauce covering the bull@&^# sandwich.)

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@Metal-Brain
Well well,Total suprise Fake news site again

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewsPunch

Do you have some website you go to that only gives you these fringe BS sites or do you do that yourself with google?

Don't say your usual, 'just read the site'

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@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
Well well,Total suprise Fake news site again

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewsPunch

Do you have some website you go to that only gives you these fringe BS sites or do you do that yourself with google?

Don't say your usual, 'just read the site'
Attacking the source again?
The source has a source which somebody posted before you did.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0045592

You have failed.

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My mouth does not go down there.

I have lived by that rule for decades.

And they called me crazy 🤨
I have been vindicated 🤗

Thanks Metal Brain 👍

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@shallow-blue said
I find the very idea of a "male micro-chimerism" very dubious in the first place. It sounds all too much like they're blaming autism in women on "internalised toxic masculinity". (Which, in fact, I have heard feminists do, except not with a neurological sauce covering the bull@&^# sandwich.)
In fact micro-chimeres seem to be etsablished as a quite frequent phenomenon.

To establish the chromsomal setup if extracted is comparatively trivial (as opposed to find out if an XX cell in a woman's body belongs to her or is a chimera). Btw there are "femal" or "motherly" micro-chimeras found in males.

And no there are no serious connections between micro-chimerism and psychopathological phenomena as yet. However the researchers looked for them.

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@ponderable said
In fact micro-chimeres seem to be etsablished as a quite frequent phenomenon.

To establish the chromsomal setup if extracted is comparatively trivial (as opposed to find out if an XX cell in a woman's body belongs to her or is a chimera). Btw there are "femal" or "motherly" micro-chimeras found in males.

And no there are no serious connections between micro-chimerism and psychopathological phenomena as yet. However the researchers looked for them.
This whole thread seems rather frightening.

But that is because I've never heard of this. I had no idea this was "a thing".

Yes, yes, the unknown can be frightening.

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@Suzianne
Maybe this explains why Trump is a psychopath?

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@metal-brain said
This is new.

https://newspunch.com/women-absorb-and-retain-dna-from-every-man-they-have-sex-with/
How does your mate feel about this? I imagine it might upset him.

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@sonhouse said
@Suzianne
Maybe this explains why Trump is a psychopath?
No, Mary Trump explained that in great detail already.

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@moonbus

She was also spot on.