Lebron wins another title

Originally posted by johnny09
success?

Indeed.

Lebron leaves Clevland to win a couple of world titles.

The Browns leave Clevland and then win a Super Bowl shortly after.

I convinced that to prevent the Yankees from ever winning another World Series, all that would need to be done is move them to the mistake by the lake. 😛

Originally posted by whodey
And all he had to do was leave Clevland to be able to have success in life. 😵

Lebron is a fine talent. He's also a self centered jackass

Originally posted by bill718
Lebron is a fine talent. He's also a self centered jackass

Lebron is the best player in the world and it's not close. You cannot undermine his accomplishments by playing the self-centered jackass card any longer. His decision to go to Miami was clearly for the best. Three trips to the finals and two championships in three years. He has likely made better career decisions than 99% of the people who criticize him.

Originally posted by MoneyManMike
Lebron went from almost being the biggest choker in Finals history to having a shot at passing MJ as the greatest of all time. Seems legit.

All of these players have more rings than Lebron James does.
There are several on the list who were better players than Lebron is.

11 Bill Russell
Boston Celtics
1956-57, 1958-59, 1959-60, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63, 1963-64, 1964-65, 1965-66, 1967-68, 1968-69
10 Sam Jones
Boston Celtics
1958-59, 1959-60, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63, 1963-64, 1964-65, 1965-66, 1967-68, 1968-69
8 John Havlicek
Boston Celtics
1962-63, 1963-64, 1964-65, 1965-66, 1967-68, 1968-69, 1973-74, 1975-76
8 Tom Heinsohn
Boston Celtics
1956-57, 1958-59, 1959-60, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63, 1963-64, 1964-65
8 K.C. Jones
Boston Celtics
1958-59, 1959-60, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63, 1963-64, 1964-65, 1965-66
8 Tom Sanders
Boston Celtics
1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63, 1963-64, 1964-65, 1965-66, 1967-68, 1968-69
7 Robert Horry
Houston Rockets
1993-94, 1994-95
Los Angeles Lakers
1999-00, 2000-01, 2001-02
San Antonio Spurs
2004-05, 2006-07
7 Jim Loscutoff
Boston Celtics
1956-57, 1958-59, 1959-60, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63, 1963-64
7 Frank Ramsey
Boston Celtics
1956-57, 1958-59, 1959-60, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63, 1963-64
6 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Los Angeles Lakers
1979-80, 1981-82, 1984-85, 1986-87, 1987-88
Milwaukee Bucks
1970-71
6 Bob Cousy
Boston Celtics
1956-57, 1958-59, 1959-60, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63
6 Michael Jordan
Chicago Bulls
1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98
6 Scottie Pippen
Chicago Bulls
1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98
5 Kobe Bryant
Los Angeles Lakers
1999-00, 2000-01, 2001-02, 2008-09, 2009-10
5 Michael Cooper
Los Angeles Lakers
1979-80, 1981-82, 1984-85, 1986-87, 1987-88
5 Derek Fisher
Los Angeles Lakers
1999-00, 2000-01, 2001-02, 2008-09, 2009-10
5 Ron Harper
Chicago Bulls
1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98
Los Angeles Lakers
1999-00, 2000-01
5 Magic Johnson
Los Angeles Lakers
1979-80, 1981-82, 1984-85, 1986-87, 1987-88
5 Steve Kerr
Chicago Bulls
1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98
San Antonio Spurs
1998-99, 2002-03
5 Slater Martin
Minneapolis Lakers
1949-50, 1951-52, 1952-53, 1953-54
St. Louis Hawks
1957-58
5 George Mikan
Minneapolis Lakers
1948-49, 1949-50, 1951-52, 1952-53, 1953-54
5 Don Nelson
Boston Celtics
1965-66, 1967-68, 1968-69, 1973-74, 1975-76
5 Jim Pollard
Minneapolis Lakers
1948-49, 1949-50, 1951-52, 1952-53, 1953-54
5 Dennis Rodman
Chicago Bulls
1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98
Detroit Pistons
1988-89, 1989-90
5 Larry Siegfried
Boston Celtics
1963-64, 1964-65, 1965-66, 1967-68, 1968-69
4 Tim Duncan
San Antonio Spurs
1998-99, 2002-03, 2004-05, 2006-07
4 Horace Grant
Chicago Bulls
1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93
Los Angeles Lakers
2000-01
4 Gene Guarilia
Boston Celtics
1959-60, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63
4 Vern Mikkelsen
Minneapolis Lakers
1949-50, 1951-52, 1952-53, 1953-54
4 Shaquille O'Neal
Los Angeles Lakers
1999-00, 2000-01, 2001-02
Miami Heat
2005-06
4 Robert Parish
Boston Celtics
1980-81, 1983-84, 1985-86
Chicago Bulls
1996-97
4 Will Perdue
Chicago Bulls
1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93
San Antonio Spurs
1998-99
4 Kurt Rambis
Los Angeles Lakers
1981-82, 1984-85, 1986-87, 1987-88
4 John Salley
Chicago Bulls
1995-96
Detroit Pistons
1988-89, 1989-90
Los Angeles Lakers
1999-00
4 Pep Saul
Minneapolis Lakers
1951-52, 1952-53, 1953-54
Rochester Royals
1950-51
4 Bill Sharman
Boston Celtics
1956-57, 1958-59, 1959-60, 1960-61
4 Jamaal Wilkes
Golden State Warriors
1974-75
Los Angeles Lakers
1979-80, 1981-82, 1984-85
3 B.J. Armstrong
Chicago Bulls
1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93
3 Larry Bird
Boston Celtics
1980-81, 1983-84, 1985-86
3 Bruce Bowen
San Antonio Spurs
2002-03, 2004-05, 2006-07
3 Randy Brown
Chicago Bulls
1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98
3 Jud Buechler
Chicago Bulls
1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98
3 Bill Cartwright
Chicago Bulls
1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93
3 Sam Cassell
Boston Celtics
2007-08
Houston Rockets
1993-94, 1994-95
3 Gene Conley
Boston Celtics
1958-59, 1959-60, 1960-61
3 James Edwards
Chicago Bulls
1995-96
Detroit Pistons
1988-89, 1989-90
3 Mario Elie
Houston Rockets
1993-94, 1994-95
San Antonio Spurs
1998-99
3 Rick Fox
Los Angeles Lakers
1999-00, 2000-01, 2001-02
3 Devean George
Los Angeles Lakers
1999-00, 2000-01, 2001-02
3 Manu Ginobili
San Antonio Spurs
2002-03, 2004-05, 2006-07
3 A.C. Green
Los Angeles Lakers
1986-87, 1987-88, 1999-00
3 Bob Harrison
Minneapolis Lakers
1949-50, 1951-52, 1952-53
3 Udonis Haslem
Miami Heat
2005-06, 2011-12, 2012-13
3 Gerald Henderson
Boston Celtics
1980-81, 1983-84
Detroit Pistons
1989-90
3 Dennis Johnson
Boston Celtics
1983-84, 1985-86
Seattle Supersonics
1978-79
3 Stacey King
Chicago Bulls
1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93
3 Toni Kukoc
Chicago Bulls
1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98
3 Mitch Kupchak
Los Angeles Lakers
1981-82, 1984-85
Washington Bullets
1977-78
3 Luc Longley
Chicago Bulls
1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98
3 Clyde Lovellette
Boston Celtics
1962-63, 1963-64
Minneapolis Lakers
1953-54
3 Kevin McHale
Boston Celtics
1980-81, 1983-84, 1985-86
3 Willie Naulls
Boston Celtics
1963-64, 1964-65, 1965-66
3 Tony Parker
San Antonio Spurs
2002-03, 2004-05, 2006-07
3 John Paxson
Chicago Bulls
1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93
3 Byron Scott
Los Angeles Lakers
1984-85, 1986-87, 1987-88
3 Brian Shaw
Los Angeles Lakers
1999-00, 2000-01, 2001-02
3 Paul Silas
Boston Celtics
1973-74, 1975-76
Seattle Supersonics
1978-79
3 Dickey Simpkins
Chicago Bulls
1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98
3 Whitey Skoog
Minneapolis Lakers
1951-52, 1952-53, 1953-54
3 Dwyane Wade
Miami Heat
2005-06, 2011-12, 2012-13
3 Bill Wennington
Chicago Bulls
1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98
3 Scott Williams
Chicago Bulls
1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93
3 James Worthy
Los Angeles Lakers
1984-85, 1986-87, 1987-88

Originally posted by shortcircuit
All of these players have more rings than Lebron James does.
There are several on the list who were better players than Lebron is.

11 Bill Russell
Boston Celtics
1956-57, 1958-59, 1959-60, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63, 1963-64, 1964-65, 1965-66, 1967-68, 1968-69
10 Sam Jones
Boston Celtics
1958-59, 1959-60, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63, 1963-64 ls
1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93
3 James Worthy
Los Angeles Lakers
1984-85, 1986-87, 1987-88

It's hard to compare Centers with other players but surely on that list only Russell and Abdul-Jabbar would be considered "great" players. Of the other players, only MJ, Bird and Magic would seriously be considered better players than LeBron. James is 28; MJ won his first title at that age and Larry had 2 by that time (same as Lebron). Only Magic had more titles (4) than LeBron. Kareem had won only 1 by age 28 though Russell had 5.

EDIT: Kobe should be added to that list; 3 titles by age 28.

Originally posted by no1marauder
It's hard to compare Centers with other players but surely on that list only Russell and Abdul-Jabbar would be considered "great" players. Of the other players, only MJ, Bird and Magic would seriously be considered better players than LeBron. James is 28; MJ won his first title at that age and Larry had 2 by that time (same as Lebron). Only Magic had mor ...[text shortened]... age 28 though Russell had 5.

EDIT: Kobe should be added to that list; 3 titles by age 28.

Yep.

Not sure what SC's point was in posting that copypasta list. LBJ's career is nowhere near finished.

Originally posted by shortcircuit
All of these players have more rings than Lebron James does.
There are several on the list who were better players than Lebron is.

11 Bill Russell
Boston Celtics
1956-57, 1958-59, 1959-60, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63, 1963-64, 1964-65, 1965-66, 1967-68, 1968-69
10 Sam Jones
Boston Celtics
1958-59, 1959-60, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63, 1963-64 ...[text shortened]... s
1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93
3 James Worthy
Los Angeles Lakers
1984-85, 1986-87, 1987-88P

I don't think you have provided enough data, you must include more!😠

Originally posted by shortcircuit
All of these players have more rings than Lebron James does.
There are several on the list who were better players than Lebron is.

11 Bill Russell
Boston Celtics
1956-57, 1958-59, 1959-60, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63, 1963-64, 1964-65, 1965-66, 1967-68, 1968-69
10 Sam Jones
Boston Celtics
1958-59, 1959-60, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63, 1963-64 ...[text shortened]... ls
1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93
3 James Worthy
Los Angeles Lakers
1984-85, 1986-87, 1987-88

This to me is the biggest waste of time on RHP. showing all the people who have more rings? and then side note "some" are better? LOL

Originally posted by Zamboner
Lebron is the best player in the world and it's not close. You cannot undermine his accomplishments by playing the self-centered jackass card any longer. His decision to go to Miami was clearly for the best. Three trips to the finals and two championships in three years. He has likely made better career decisions than 99% of the people who criticize him.

I don't think most people have a problem with him going to Miami. What I do have a problem with was him claiming to to love the city of Cleveland, his home area, etc. etc. and then arranging himself a 1 hour special on ESPN in the off season with Jim Gray to give Cleveland the finger for a full hour.

Originally posted by sh76
I don't think most people have a problem with him going to Miami. What I do have a problem with was him claiming to to love the city of Cleveland, his home area, etc. etc. and then arranging himself a 1 hour special on ESPN in the off season with Jim Gray to give Cleveland the finger for a full hour.

It reminds me of what Art Model of the Ravens did after moving the team out of Clevland and then winning a Super Bowl in Baltimore. When he got the trophy on the field, the first thing he did was thank the fans in Clevland for their support all those years.

LOL.

It was like watching salt get poured on a slug.