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  1. PenTesting
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    @spruce112358 said
    This is what you sound like, to me:

    "I wanted to buy this car off this guy. I really liked the car, so I offered him $1000. But he refused so I kept the $1000 in my pocket and TOOK the car. But then he fought back against me, so I pounded him and gave him a bloody nose.

    He inexplicably keeps fighting me, so I got all my friends to call him a terrorist and imprisone ...[text shortened]... around and carry out their bidding.

    Democracy is the answer. FULL democracy where everyone votes.
    What an absolutely dumb analogy. You are blind. Does Hamas follow after democracy with their own people? Why would they follow democracy with the Jews who they hate and want to kill? Are you really that gullible?

    No, you are not. What you appear to be is a supporter of Sharia Law, and a Jew hater, disguising yourself as someone trying to achieve a peaceful solution with the Jews submitting to Hamas ... Lol ... I think you need to stop smoking that thing you smoking and get some help. You really do not understand the issues here. I have a 10 old daughter that can come up with better ideas. 😆

    The crazies you support are getting clobbered and facing destruction and your solution is to get them full control of Palestine ? Losers making demands !!! Amazing.
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    @spruce112358 said
    It has to be said that if the Jews don't like Muslims, then they have picked a PRETTY weird place to decide to move to and settle!

    I mean, out of every corner of God's green earth you chose to live THERE?!?

    It's a little bit unrealistic if you object to those kind of people, but be that as it may.

    Yes, I fully expect the Jews to live alongside Muslims in peace. ...[text shortened]... rary solution. It is amazing how often the temporary becomes permanent. But we shall see about that.
    The Jews were there first. Read the history.

    You are not understanding the Hamas Charter of 2017. There is going to be a one state solution with Hamas in charge, [thats Sharia Law] and no Jewish government. No Jew will ever, nor will they need to, submit to Sharia Law. Sharia Law is the most extreme of all the variants of Islam and it is well known for its brutality. It follows Muhammed, who was a pedophile, and a warmonger. He was a nasty piece of work and recommended the killing of Jews and Infidels.

    Peace ? NFW. You and your stupid ideas that support those sickos will need to find another planet to live on.
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    @shavixmir said
    Yes, yes they did.
    And did various Islamic lands help with the intervention against Iranian drones? Yes, yes they did.
    Well post a couple links of Islamic states condeming Hamas attack of Oct 7th. Jordan helped take down Iran's drones. They said it was in self defence. Apparently Irans military is so backward their drones had no sense of direction, just like those who fired them. Jordan know how stupid Iran is.
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    @shavixmir said
    The majority of Islamic people were not celebrating or dancing.
    Again, blaming millions for the behaviour of hundreds.
    Did these moderates come out and condemn Hamas?
    No.
    Silence implies consent.

    They are reaping what they sow.
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    @shavixmir said
    Yeah… see… that’s ethnic cleansing… and that doesn’t make friends or get you invited to birthdays.

    Also, you are blaming a whole group of people for decisions they, themselves, didn’t make. Which is a generalised punishment… which, just like ethnic cleansing is illegal.

    That you don’t care about that sort if thing, makes you a fascist thug.
    Im not looking for friends, neither is Israel. Yes Palestinians are to be blamed for the mess they are in. Yes they deserve generalised punishment, just like how they all celebrate when Jews are killed. They are in full support of Hamas. Never heard of any of them condemn Hamas.

    Ethnic cleansing is illegal yes. Tell that to Hamas.
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    @shavixmir said
    Yes, you dumb fukk. That just doesn’t give anyone the right to flaunt international law.

    Netanyahoo and his cronies are going to be summoned with arrest warrants by the international court of justice. Just wait and see.

    It’s fukking attrocious what’s going on iver there. And you can’t just sit back and do nothing. I’m sure someone Jewish once coined that very same bloody phrase.
    You have a lot of faith in this thing called International Law. There is no such thing. I mean there is such a thing but it has very little power and authority to prosecute anyone. Its all a big show designed to appease to the small minded people who think that is justice. The recent case brought against Israel by South Africa should tell you that but you are not observant. the ICJ is powerless.

    Muslims all over the world sat back and did nothing after the Oct 7th massacre of Jews. Many were dancing in the streets and celebrating.
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    @shavixmir said
    Well, since Netenyahoo and his right-wing morons have declared they don’t want a two-state solutions, and since ethinic cleansing is illegal… it pretty much fukkin’ narrows it down, doesn’t it?
    In 1948, the Palestinians refused a 2-state solution. They refused and started the first war. They lost. They wrote in their Charter of 1988 there is going to be no 2SS and they will kill all Jews. They wrote in their Charter of 2017, there will be no 2SS, again.

    Now after the Oct 7th attack, Israel said there will be no 2SS. Palestinians are destined for the dustbin of history. They will go down as the most stupid of all people. They are idiots. Idiots cannot run a country. Mr Spruce's plan for peace is that Hamas will take over the whole of Palestine and run it as a democratic country and everyone will be happy and at peace. Well to put it mildly Mr Spruce has his head up his butt, like all supporters of the Palestine cause.
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    @spruce112358 said
    Hamas is advocating for a single state - the "one-state" solution. They paint this as a democratic, pluralistic state which, after refugees are repatriated, would hold free and fair elections. Most estimates I have seen suggest that such a state would have a Muslim majority, but perhaps not by much.

    As for what sort of a state it is, The People themselves would have t ...[text shortened]... row, say. And after that 70 years of war are finished. Done.

    And a new, better democracy is born.
    Hamas is an extremist organisation. The world knows what fundamentalist Islamic states like Boko Harem, ISIS, Taliban and others are about. I personally find it shocking that you would think that could work with the Jews.

    So the Jews would refuse such a state from the start. Are you saying that there is some force that could force the Jews to accept such a deal and set up a one-state in Palestine?
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    @athousandyoung said
    "Insane" Buddhist monk whose suicide led to the overthrow of the oppressive Catholic regime in his country:

    https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/buddhist-immolates-himself-in-protest
    Insane in my book.
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    @athousandyoung said
    The people who became Muslims existed before 600 AD. I was just pointing that out. I don't disagree with what you write for the most part except that not all those Jews who were driven out by the Romans became Ashkenazim. Some became Ladinos for example instead.
    Did not mean to imply all Jews chased out by Romans became Ashkenazi. Some did. I need to study up on that some more, and get some of that history right.
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    @athousandyoung said
    Some insane Americans:

    https://listverse.com/2020/01/31/8-harrowing-facts-about-the-9-11-jumpers/
    https://taskandpurpose.com/history/kyle-carpenter-you-are-worth-it/
    Those who jumped off a burning building are not insane at all.
    I dont need to explain that to you like you are a 5 yr old.
    Did not open the second link. Not interested.
    Islamic suicide bombers are insane. Nobody cares why to be honest.
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    @spruce112358 said
    We are talking about rights and governance and voting.
    Well what impression did you get from the Hamas Charter of 2017. Here is what I got. There is going to be no Jewish State in the Land of Palestine. There is going to be a single Arab Islamic State. These people are delusional.

    Let the war continue.
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    @sh76 said
    Extreme religious fundamentalism is as powerful as desperation or insanity.
    They are convinced by their religious leaders that they will go to heaven if they kill Jews and infidels.
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    @athousandyoung said
    It requires desperation not insanity.
    If desperation leads you to commit suicide you are f..king insane.
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    @athousandyoung said
    Ashkenazim came on the scene about 900 AD so by that logic Muslims came first
    Jews are the descendents of Jacob who lived in the Land of Judaea some 2000 years before Christ. The Ashkenazi Jews are those who the Romans chased out of Palestine about 70 AD, and they fled to different parts of Europe.

    The only people who can claim to be in the Land of Palestine, prior to the Jews are the Canaanites, or Amalekites, Ammorites etc., many of whom were killed by the Jews.
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