@carnivorum said
So we agree that there is no scientific explanation what so ever for the existence of duons.

So it should be clear to everybody that the only rational explanation is intelligent design.

And there we have our Intelligent Designer.

We call Him "God".

It is really that simple.

You see carnivorum, if it's that simple, don't hold your breath waiting for the "wise and prudent" to understand it.

@divegeester said
You’re either stupid or trolling.

You should amend that to read, "I'm either stupid or trolling."

And I might add "or both."

@carnivorum said
The Forbes page doesn't go at all into how the duons might have come into being without intelligent design, so it doesn't debunk anything.

The only thing that page does is whining about something else.

Divegeester is always whining about something.

@divegeester said
Did you read any of the webpage posted in the OP?

Did you read any of the 5 links within webpage?

Have you done any reading on the subject other than from Creation.com?

None of your business.
None of your business.
None of your business.

@carnivorum said
Duons, that is dual coding genes, prove beyond any doubt intelligent design, and with that an Intelligent Designer.

For the finer details look here: https://tinyurl.com/God-won

I gotta see this debate.

@pettytalk said
Therefore you disagree with Mr. Maxwell, as I do. The Devil does have a Father, and perhaps the correct interpretation of the Greek for John 8:44 is indeed that the Father is also a liar. But since Jesus also said that God is Good, He's a Good liar. And a good liar is one who makes others believe the lies, otherwise he would not be a good liar.

Could be that a few Jews g ...[text shortened]... l have a need to know. To know good and evil; to know the truth about them, which will set you free.

"...The Devil does have a Father, and perhaps the correct interpretation of the Greek for John 8:44 is indeed that the Father is also a liar. But since Jesus also said that God is Good, He's a Good liar. And a good liar is one who makes others believe the lies, otherwise he would not be a good liar."

Brazen lie if I ever heard one.

The scripture teaches "..God, that cannot lie,.."; therefore the contradiction you assert is a lie, told by a liar and believed by fools.

@pettytalk said
The nuances of translating the Greek New Testament.

The following is from this source https://concordiatheology.org/2021/11/five-things-new-testament-translations-dont-want-you-to-know/

1. The Devil Has a Father? (Jn 8:44)

In John 8:44, Jesus says of the devil, ὅταν λαλῇ τὸ ψεῦδος, ἐκ τῶν ἰδίων λαλεῖ, ὅτι ψεύστης ἐστὶν καὶ ὁπατὴρ αὐτοῦ. The ESV renders this, “Whe ...[text shortened]... egarding John 8:44? It does make a hell of a difference, when it comes to the Devil, and his father.

Quite the twist.

Satan has a creator. Everything does. God is not Satan's father simply because he wasn't created in God's image and likeness, man was. God is the father of the human race.

Satan is merely the father of the lie. To render the interpretation as meaning more or less than what it says is only very poor exegesis, as there are no other textual references that gives support to what is just another attempt of starting with a presumptive idea and cherry picking a verse and garbling up its plain meaning to make it say something else.

All your cutting and pasting notwithstanding.

After all it's what Satan does. He adds to and takes away from the Word of God.

@divegeester said
I find you very interesting;

- Multiple accounts which you lied about (@Secondson)
- angry and abusive when under pressure
- liberal use of biblical text to throw spite filled insults
- claims to be spiritually mature yet not allowed to teach in your church - instead a taxi driver for the old ladies
-Trump supporter (like KellyJay)
- Biblical literalist who be ...[text shortened]... f good and evil” and of “life” with roots and leaves etc

Yes, you are quite interesting Joesphw.

Unlike you I don't carry a grudge. You obviously keep a list of grievances. No doubt a list for each of those you are contemptible of.

Oddly, they just so happen to be Christians that believe God and not man.

Your argument is with God, but since you can't touch him you berate those that believe him.

You're sounding more and more everyday like any other...

@divegeester said

Suzianne hasn’t got a clue and so just pours out scorn.

It is you who is without a clue. It's a shame you can't follow the thread.

@divegeester said
You’re posting history of exchanges with myself would indicate otherwise.

You're obviously perturbed because no wants to discuss anything with you.

After all everything you say is just petty personal insults, which makes you uninteresting.

@suzianne said
Seems obvious, yeah?

This is the 'FMF and divegeester' method of forum douchebaggery. Act like you have NO freaking idea what is being said. One wonders why he posts if he doesn't get it. The next step is to double-down on asking again and again and again and again and... what is being talked about. This is called 'acting as if the OP has no point.'

Well defined suzianne.

@moonbus said
@mlb62


"Ghost" is an infelicitous choice of words, because it suggests to most people the immaterial remnant of a once-embodied personality (something like 'Nearly Headless Nick' in Harry Potter). "Holy spirit" is a slightly better formulation insofar as one takes the word "spirit" as in "the spirit, rather than the letter, of the law." In Christian theology (don't ask m ...[text shortened]... no Christian theology. Think of a wholly de-personalized power indwelling in a person who has faith.

"Without Greek philosophy, there would be no Christian theology."

God, as defined in the scriptures, is responsible for the existence of everything.

After creation a will arose against the will of God. Since then everybody seems to think they know how everything works better than God, to the extent that they think they can define God himself.

To do so they must eradicate from their thinking any possibility that God superintended the transmission of his will in written form.

I'd hate to be the one bucking against God's will just because I think I'm smarter than him, and can't rationalize beyond the interests of my own will.

@divegeester said
The Jesus I believe in is the one described in the Bible.

That's what I've been saying, except you don't appear to know who that is, especially since, after cherry picking through the Bible to find what supports your preconceptions, you've discarded rest of what doesn't agree with you.

You're reduced to having only opinions, and nobody wants to debate over those.

@divegeester said
Why is it odd; you asserted something and I’m asking you specifically about what you said.

You need to think for yourself. My "assertions" are clear. Not my fault you can't understand plain English, much less the scriptures.

@divegeester said
I’m aware that I grind your gears SecondSon.

That's your illusion. I am not phased.