@mott-the-hoople said
an unarmed woman dumbass…what did they think she was gonna do?

lets replace the woman here with a black and you libs scream bloody hell.


no one wants to hear your shytweaseling

LMAO! If that was a crowd of blacks acting in the same way, you would have supported a second Sharpeville. So try not to be such a hypocrite as to attempt to play a reverse race card.

Babbitt was at the head of a violent mob, not a single tourist "ambling" around. She left the officer little choice if he was to perform his duty to protect those in the House chamber.

Of course, this tangent claiming we shouldn't believe our own eyes regarding the events of January 6, 2021 still isn't in response to my main point which is that no one can provide pictures of the recent campus protesters doing the "same" or even similar violent acts such as the insurrectionists did at the Capitol and thus the OP is basically BS (and that applies regardless of who says it).

@mott-the-hoople said
its called a "sit in"

It's called an "insurrection".

@mott-the-hoople said
which of these were facing armed police officers?

Wajoma is saying the "armed police officers" should have allowed the mob which Ashley Babbitt was in the lead of to reach the members of Congress and their staff.

Do you disagree?

If not, what could then have prevented the mob from attacking the people in the House Chamber and/or holding them hostage?

@wajoma said
Shag pseudy for brains said:

"...if you’re gonna storm the seat of government"

Nice point shatmixer, 'if'.

It was a directionless mob, a few of them broke some windows, some others got upset when the cops started beating on them and throwing potentially lethal flash bangs around. 'if' is the stuff of No1's fairey tails

LMAO! A "directionless mob" that just happened to show up at the Capitol on the same day that Congress was to certify the 2020 Presidential election results. Then they just happened to proceed in the direction of where that certification was to take place, violently attacking police who were in the way.

Like I said you are either completely delusional or a very poor purveyor of ludicrous falsehoods.

@mott-the-hoople said
without any weapons, absolutely nothing

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/11/15/suspects-arrested-in-killing-of-jonathan-lewis-las-vegas/71590003007/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mob-fatally-beats-woman-suspected-killing-girl-mexico-tourist-city-taxco/

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/man-tears-holy-book-beaten-to-death-in-punjab/ar-BB1lPSA0

Those are a few recent examples of people beaten to death by mobs. Allowing a violent mob to reach members of Congress and their staff would have been a dereliction of duty by the officer.

@mott-the-hoople said
without any weapons, absolutely nothing

They had weapons as my links already showed but you don't need weapons to do lethal damage to another human being esp. if you are part of a large, violent group.

@mott-the-hoople said
your 'fairytakle" is true...this whole thing was a setup...no amout of your shytweaseling will change that...

turns out they didnt need to use the piope bomb angle so they cover that up with no idea who it was

It was "setup" by Donald Trump.

@mott-the-hoople said
what was an unarmed woman climbing through a window going to do?

What was a violent mob going to do if it had reached members of Congress and their staff a short distance away?

The officer decided that was not a risk he was willing to accept and his decision was correct under the laws regarding self-defense and defense of others.

@wajoma said
And here's another angle to consider, another unpopular opinion.

Disregarding, for now, the mis-use of flashbangs, let's consider the use of pepper spray as provocation. Pepper spray is temporary, it temporarily disorientates, the intention is to disorientate, it blinds, it causes great pain, and it is during that temporary window the person being sprayed needs to b ...[text shortened]... hich was the purpose of the spray.

A vicious circle stirred and exponentially spun by the cops.

Good fairy tale.

In this case, the insurrectionists were the ones who triggered the violence by attacking police lines in an, ultimately successful, attempt to break into the Capitol. And a number used chemical agents like bear and pepper spray against law enforcement. https://www.npr.org/2021/03/19/977879589/yes-capitol-rioters-were-armed-here-are-the-weapons-prosecutors-say-they-used

@wajoma said
lol 'hyper violent', well it would be lol except for your reveling in the shooting death of an unarmed person.

No one is "reveling" in it. Just showing that the shooting was legally justified under the extreme circumstances presented to the officer.

Violent mobs can kill even if they aren't armed (though many of the insurrectionists were).

@wajoma said
No1 said:

"...but the vicious police brutally attacked them without reason."

In some cases, not all, yes?

It seems I can look at the situation more realistically than you and acknowledge there were idiots on both sides.

Your fanatical state worship has blinded you.

Shooting an unarmed person is 'exceedingly mild' as an example. I've heard ex-police (those that can speak out) denounce Byrds trigger happy killing of Babbitt.

Hilariously, this "State worshipper" actually was tear gassed and had a Boston police officer on horseback swing a baton at him during a peaceful demonstration in favor of school desegregation in the early 1970s.

@wajoma said
No1 said:

"...but the vicious police brutally attacked them without reason."

In some cases, not all, yes?

It seems I can look at the situation more realistically than you and acknowledge there were idiots on both sides.

Your fanatical state worship has blinded you.

Shooting an unarmed person is 'exceedingly mild' as an example. I've heard ex-police (those that can speak out) denounce Byrds trigger happy killing of Babbitt.

I have no doubt that some police used excessive force on January 6, 2021 in response to the insurrectionists violent attacks on them.

The shooting of Babbitt wasn't an example of it though. She was leading a hyper violent group which was within a short corridor of dozens of members of Congress and their staff huddled in fear. The use of deadly force was justified under those circumstances. https://www.nbcnews.com/video/capitol-shooting-that-led-to-ashli-babbitt-s-death-captured-on-video-99180613572

https://wjla.com/news/local/graphic-fatal-shooting-of-ashli-babbitt-in-the-capitol-caught-on-video

Again, maybe sh76, Mott, you or someone else can show me pictures of the protesters at the recent events on campus acting like the people in these videos.

@wajoma said
Like a gun to shoot an unarmed person point blank, throwing flashbangs which have the potential to blow your hand off into a close packed crowd, prying the fingers of a protestor literally clinging for life on the outside of a railing and beating an unconscious woman on the ground 3 times.

I look forward to it.

We know you have a fantasy, Dream World version where an innocent group of tourists just wanted to amble around the Capitol taking selfies but the vicious police brutally attacked them without reason.

Nothing seems to be able to bring you back to reality, so I won't even try. The police reaction on January 6, 2021 was exceedingly mild given the actions of the insurrectionists in stark contrast to how the disorders occasioned by the police murder of George Floyd and others was handled.

@mott-the-hoople said
show your proof of “ mass attacks on police”

oh thats right, you are lying

" More than 300 people have been charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers, including more than 100 who have been charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapon or causing serious bodily injury."

https://apnews.com/article/jan-6-capitol-riot-sentencing-police-officers-assault-3a20eadafe19c70c3bb36e20de105013