biden cutting medicare

@wildgrass said
Why did they not save for retirement? Buncha moochers.

Wgrass.....why indeed. There is someone here who is happy 'working for 20 hours a week', from which we can conclude a great life of fun, but seemingly unlikely to be setting much money aside in an investment that will support him when he is , well, to old to work, like Joe Biden. Biden is busily at work setting aside money to retire on comfortably on. So Joe and someone we know are going to retire, but the one we know we will have no 'savings', nothing throwing off dividends.
So be facetious if you want to, but if someone does not plan for retirement, pray tell, do you think the government should support them?

@averagejoe1 said
Wgrass.....why indeed. There is someone here who is happy 'working for 20 hours a week', from which we can conclude a great life of fun, but seemingly unlikely to be setting much money aside in an investment that will support him when he is , well, to old to work, like Joe Biden. Biden is busily at work setting aside money to retire on comfortably on. So Joe and someo ...[text shortened]... if someone does not plan for retirement, pray tell, do you think the government should support them?

Nah. Im a goobermint minimalist. Everything except r&d should be defunded. Mott does though. Loves government entitlements. Talk to him about profligate spending.

@mott-the-hoople said
… its biden tho and you defend him cutting services to the elderly.

Sonhouse asks who needs medicare,, just above. Someone please answer him, I am exhausted.

@AverageJoe1
Too exhausted to take remedial reading comprehension 101. AGAIN, look up this pesky word, 'Sarcasm'. You even weaponize that, did you really think you were going to somehow get debate brownie points for that one? Sorry, I disturbed your golf lessons. How much do they charge for those lessons anyway?

@averagejoe1 said
How come a romanian speaks perfect english but i know of no american who speaks romanian? Not a word. I have no idea how to say 'yes in romania. Or Shav-like words.
Intelege?

Doesn't that speak to relative intelligence? You know, like you constantly claiming you don't understand what people are saying?

I'm guessing it's because schools in Europe are not run by people expecting a profit?

@averagejoe1 said
So be facetious if you want to, but if someone does not plan for retirement, pray tell, do you think the government should support them?

When you retire, the double-tap of losing employer-provided health care insurance AND a salary is too much. SS pension is enough to cover basic housing and food, but comes nowhere close to covering medical insurance - let alone deductibles and co-pays.

Government has driven healthcare costs through the roof through over-regulation. It has also driving housing prices through the roof by preventing low-cost housing being built where retirees could go.

Without Medicare, seniors would not be getting any healthcare - because government has made it too expensive for a retired person to pay for out-of-pocket.

Retiring with $100k won't cut it. Retiring with $500k won't cut it. Without Medicare, there are only two viable "plans" you can make: have millions in the bank, or work until you die.

@suzianne said
Doesn't that speak to relative intelligence? You know, like you constantly claiming you don't understand what people are saying?

I'm guessing it's because schools in Europe are not run by people expecting a profit?

“I'm guessing it's because schools in Europe are not run by people expecting a profit?”
😂 #GOODUN

@spruce112358 said
When you retire, the double-tap of losing employer-provided health care insurance AND a salary is too much. SS pension is enough to cover basic housing and food, but comes nowhere close to covering medical insurance - let alone deductibles and co-pays.

Government has driven healthcare costs through the roof through over-regulation. It has also driving housing prices t ...[text shortened]... e, there are only two viable "plans" you can make: have millions in the bank, or work until you die.

“Government has driven healthcare costs through the roof through over-regulation. It has also driving housing prices through the roof by preventing low-cost housing being built where retirees could go. ”

give some examples

@mott-the-hoople said
“Government has driven healthcare costs through the roof through over-regulation. It has also driving housing prices through the roof by preventing low-cost housing being built where retirees could go. ”

give some examples

Oooof. I have things to do today..

Quickly: housing is restricted by zoning and permits - lower supply, higher prices. Demand is driven up with loans: VA loans, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, etc. - higher demand, higher prices. Higher house prices means higher property tax - yay! Giving into NIMBY's who don't like apartments and granny flats and duplexes being built near them - more votes, yay!

Medicine: Licensing. OK, first, you can't even TALK about medicine. If you do, it is "practicing medicine". No one can do that unless gummint says its ok. Next, "Certificates of need." Gummint says where you can open a clinic and what it can do. If gummint says "we don't need that," then you can't. Restricts competition.

Second are prescription drugs. You can't just buy them, and you can't just buy them from who has them. The drug industry is heavily protected from competition by gummint - so they can charge what they want.

Third, technology should be driving the cost of healthcare down to almost nothing - but gummint won't let it. I should be able to get on my laptop with a perfectly competent Indian physician, drop my trousers and say, "does that look right?" And then go buy a drug to feel better. Gummint says 'No.'

Just the tip of the iceberg.

@spruce112358 said
Oooof. I have things to do today..

Quickly: housing is restricted by zoning and permits - lower supply, higher prices. Demand is driven up with loans: VA loans, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, etc. - higher demand, higher prices. Higher house prices means higher property tax - yay! Giving into NIMBY's who don't like apartments and granny flats and duplexes being built nea ...[text shortened]... ok right?" And then go buy a drug to feel better. Gummint says 'No.'

Just the tip of the iceberg.

there was a time when there was none of this…then came civilization.

I’m not against regulation, it is the over regulation that I don’t like.

None of your listings is “over regulation”, it is necessary to maintain life and civility.

@Mott-The-Hoople
What regulation do you approve of?

@mott-the-hoople said
there was a time when there was none of this…then came civilization.

I’m not against regulation, it is the over regulation that I don’t like.

None of your listings is “over regulation”, it is necessary to maintain life and civility.

I don't think banning granny from living over the garage is necessary to preserve civilization. 😀

@Mott-The-Hoople
Says the dude(?) with the 5th grade education.

@spruce112358 said
I don't think banning granny from living over the garage is necessary to preserve civilization. 😀

who said it was?

@averagejoe1 said
How come a romanian speaks perfect english but i know of no american who speaks romanian? Not a word. I have no idea how to say 'yes in romania. Or Shav-like words.
Intelege?

because romanians didn't have an entire continent to plunder and native populations to genocide until turning into a super power