http://www.randalolson.com/2014/06/25/average-iq-of-students-by-college-major-and-gender-ratio/
I found this interesting. Notice that the IQ doesn't drop below 100, so we are talking above average intelligence here.
Perhaps it isn't societies' gender beliefs that are creating the gender difference in areas like Physics and Engineering. Based on this link, the gender differences may simply be the result of IQ.
04 May 16
Originally posted by EladarThe IQ scores were estimated from SAT scores. There was no correlation between the tests on verbal reasoning and subject. However there was a correlation between quantitative reasoning and subject. Unsurprisingly, people with good quantitative skills tend to do subjects like maths, physics, and engineering. People with poorer quantitative skills tended to go for non-quantitative subjects. None of this should come as a surprise. However this effect is more pronounced with men than it is with women.
http://www.randalolson.com/2014/06/25/average-iq-of-students-by-college-major-and-gender-ratio/
I found this interesting. Notice that the IQ doesn't drop below 100, so we are talking above average intelligence here.
Perhaps it isn't societies' gender beliefs that are creating the gender difference in areas like Physics and Engineering. Based on this link, the gender differences may simply be the result of IQ.
Now we get to the problematic part. They estimated the IQ from the SAT score. This is a dubious piece of methodology as it introduces a bias towards physicists (not that I'll complain too much about that). With verbal reasoning it is generally difficult to get either a very bad score or a very good one. In quantitative tests it is a lot easier to get full marks, and it's easier to score really badly. This means that students who are not interested in maths will tend to score relatively badly in the quantitative tests - and this is not necessarily related to IQ.
What you are not taking into account is that men with good quantitative skills tend to do a quantitative subject. The graphs do show that women, on the other hand, are more likely to do a qualitative subject, even if they have good quantitative skills. The method for estimating IQ is biased towards the quantitative subjects so that a gender difference in IQ appears as an artifact of the methodology.
Originally posted by FishHead111
NO
Where did you get that idea from ?
Do you think IQ is something real, like a nose? It's a goddamn number dreamed up by goddamn psychologists, and all it proves is that farmers aren't as smart as psychologists. If the farmers had enough time to waste to make up an IQ system, the psychologists would all come out morons and the farmers geniuses. Because they'd give big credit for being able to grab a cow's teat right, and nothing at all for counting the number of triangles in some goddamn meaningless diagram.
- Herman Wouk, Marjorie Morningstar
04 May 16
Originally posted by sh76An IQ test is very good at measuring how well someone does at that particular IQ test - and doesn't mean a whole lot aside from that. But I guess you need a sufficiently high IQ to realize this.Do you think IQ is something real, like a nose? It's a goddamn number dreamed up by goddamn psychologists, and all it proves is that farmers aren't as smart as psychologists. If the farmers had enough time to waste to make up an IQ system, the psychologists would all come out morons and the farmers geniuses. Because they'd give big credit for being able ...[text shortened]... triangles in some goddamn meaningless diagram.
- Herman Wouk, Marjorie Morningstar
04 May 16
Originally posted by Eladariq measures exactly one thing: how good you are at taking iq tests. that's all i wanted to say, i am not going to engage you in another of your sexist/racist rants.
http://www.randalolson.com/2014/06/25/average-iq-of-students-by-college-major-and-gender-ratio/
I found this interesting. Notice that the IQ doesn't drop below 100, so we are talking above average intelligence here.
Perhaps it isn't societies' gender beliefs that are creating the gender difference in areas like Physics and Engineering. Based on this link, the gender differences may simply be the result of IQ.
04 May 16
Originally posted by EladarSo I'm glad to see I'm not part of his "norm".
http://www.randalolson.com/2014/06/25/average-iq-of-students-by-college-major-and-gender-ratio/
I found this interesting. Notice that the IQ doesn't drop below 100, so we are talking above average intelligence here.
Perhaps it isn't societies' gender beliefs that are creating the gender difference in areas like Physics and Engineering. Based on this link, the gender differences may simply be the result of IQ.
And btw, your last sentence makes no sense. Even the author of the study doesn't agree with you.
Originally posted by KazetNagorraSpend an hour in a room full of people that score 120+ on an IQ test, then spend an hour with a group that score less than 80. Get back to us on how there's no difference between them.
An IQ test is very good at measuring how well someone does at that particular IQ test - and doesn't mean a whole lot aside from that. But I guess you need a sufficiently high IQ to realize this.
Originally posted by FishHead111great example. compare those that do quite well to those that are borderline retarded. that's helpful.
Spend an hour in a room full of people that score 120+ on an IQ test, then spend an hour with a group that score less than 80. Get back to us on how there's no difference between them.
Originally posted by ZahlanziIt's common for people to commit the logical fallacy of assuming the conclusion they set out to prove.
great example. compare those that do quite well to those that are borderline retarded. that's helpful.
It's much less common for someone to actually assume the conclusion they set out to disprove.
Well done! You've accomplished an uncommon feat.