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Wat?

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Is a tin can with a piece of string permitted, along with the vibrating shoes?

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Originally posted by Murchu
Why don't they just get some of those guys they use to catch cheats in Vegas, or have I watched Casino too many times..
I think it will eventually happen, at least with the big money events. When Vegas started, I'm sure they had to learn how to catch the cheaters. Chess used to have the luxury of being harder to cheat at, but now the tourney organizers will be forced to get better at detection.

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Ajarn

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Or this?

&feature=player_embedded#t=1221

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Originally posted by SwissGambit
I think it will eventually happen, at least with the big money events. When Vegas started, I'm sure they had to learn how to catch the cheaters. Chess used to have the luxury of being harder to cheat at, but now the tourney organizers will be forced to get better at detection.
Yes, agree. I don't see how any of the ways of cheating at chess in tournaments are likely any different than the ways people cheat in casinos for example. Seems to be a large bank of expertise to draw on, if determined to stamp out cheating in chess, although as you mention, perhaps the money is not there in chess to casually adopt such measures. Still, some things you've got to take a stand on, as the whole thing is a bit of a joke when you see jokers like the subject of this thread.

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Originally posted by woodypusher
As far as missing winning lines in some games, this can be attributed to mishearing the move relayed, a transmission error, or intentionally done to satisfy the gullible - all much more plausible than him being much stronger than 3100-rated computers (alone in practice) or grand masters in OTB games.[/b]
I could well believe that all the gadgetry required was fully contained in his shoes. This would mean no outside communication is required but might at times be difficult to control and probably impossible to restart mid-game. I'm off to butcher some Nike Air Jordans.

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Originally posted by thaughbaer
I could well believe that all the gadgetry required was fully contained in his shoes. This would mean no outside communication is required but might at times be difficult to control and probably impossible to restart mid-game. I'm off to butcher some Nike Air Jordans.
Why? Did you catch them cheating? Shoot, I always wondered why they were banned!

😀

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Originally posted by thaughbaer
I could well believe that all the gadgetry required was fully contained in his shoes. This would mean no outside communication is required but might at times be difficult to control and probably impossible to restart mid-game. I'm off to butcher some Nike Air Jordans.
all it would take would be a simple pulse or a vibration, why start on Air Jordans, they are £120.00 a pair, butcher up some addidas sambas or something

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Chessbase just did a story on the Dlugy/shoe incident:

http://chessbase.com/Home/TabId/211/PostId/4011396/the-shoe-assistant--ivanov-forfeits-at-blagoevgrad-031013.aspx

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Originally posted by mikelom
Or this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhfCUdy2Tzk&feature=player_embedded#t=1221

-m. 😀
I didn't know Lawrence Welk did chess videos. 😕

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Originally posted by woodypusher
Chessbase just did a story on the Dlugy/shoe incident:

http://chessbase.com/Home/TabId/211/PostId/4011396/the-shoe-assistant--ivanov-forfeits-at-blagoevgrad-031013.aspx
Dlugy thinks it's a computer in his Air Jordans too. Maybe I'm GM material after all.... although in my case GM could be genetically modified.

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Originally posted by thaughbaer
Dlugy thinks it's a computer in his Air Jordans too. Maybe I'm GM material after all.... although in my case GM could be genetically modified.
He or whoever wrote the article provides little details and its rather unrealistic that hes working the touchscreen on a smart phone with his toes. All the kids have blackberry's because they dont like texting on a touch phone, even with their fingers.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
He or whoever wrote the article provides little details and its rather unrealistic that hes working the touchscreen on a smart phone with his toes. All the kids have blackberry's because they dont like texting on a touch phone, even with their fingers.
There are little details because they couldn't search the guy against his wishes.

No one thinks he is operating a touchscreen with his toes. They think it may be a form of code (like Morse code) transmitted by vibration.

Admittedly, that would take skill and practice to get right. But it's conceivable that someone could learn, especially with $$ for motivation.

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Originally posted by SwissGambit
There are little details because they couldn't search the guy against his wishes.

No one thinks he is operating a touchscreen with his toes. They think it may be a form of code (like Morse code) transmitted by vibration.

Admittedly, that would take skill and practice to get right. But it's conceivable that someone could learn, especially with $$ for motivation.
yes, that make sense, however it was alleged that he did not need outside help, through an app or whatever, which would suggest that their was some need for him to input something if i am not mistaken, this seems highly unlikely. It seems more likely that its a one way system in that all he does is receive a signal somehow. All he would need were the two coordinates of the square which the pawn or piece would move to.

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Shoe-gate 😕
Well done Maxim. 🙂

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Has it really come to this?