@metal-brain saidSo do I.
I agree. There is no fatalism.
There are precautions you can take to increase your chances of survival,but the outcome can never be guaranteed.
You may be fully protected to ride your motorbike,and be fatally attacked on the way to the garage.
@damionhonegan saidgreat video Sabine clearly agrees that there is a Block of Time, and everything that has happened, and will happen already exists in the Block of time.. Even Einstein agrees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwzN5YwMzv0
@mlb62 saidHow do you know the future already exists? I like Sabine's videos for the most part, but I don't think she explained how the future has already been determined. Here is the video I saw before and I am still not compelled to agree with her just because the brain is made of particles. It is like she is giving science with the gobbly gook.
great video Sabine clearly agrees that there is a Block of Time, and everything that has happened, and will happen already exists in the Block of time.. Even Einstein agrees.
@metal-brain saidI very much agree with her, about free will is an illusion. So there is nothing anyone can do to change the future because its already here. Its been here since the big bang.
How do you know the future already exists? I like Sabine's videos for the most part,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpU_e3jh_FY
@mlb62 saidWhat did she say that compelled you to believe her?
I very much agree with her, about free will is an illusion. So there is nothing anyone can do to change the future because its already here. Its been here since the big bang.
I don't recall her explaining anything that convinced me.
@mlb62 saidThis all sounds a bit far fetched to me and I didn't really follow ,or be convinced by, the video.
I very much agree with her, about free will is an illusion. So there is nothing anyone can do to change the future because its already here. Its been here since the big bang.
Just to clarify,If I am destined to be murdered by my wife in Nicaragua on the 24th of May 2029 there's nothing any of us can do about it?
@venda
Good point.
It isn't only the big events in your life that would have to be fate. Every little choice you make in your life could result in a different timeline of events. A seemingly insignificant choice could result in meeting someone you otherwise would not have. Every little thing in your life would have to be fate. That time I fell asleep and burned that apple crisp could be important to how the future plays out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect
@metal-brain saidLooking back,I can think of numerous decisions and events that changed my life forever.
@venda
Good point.
It isn't only the big events in your life that would have to be fate. Every little choice you make in your life could result in a different timeline of events. A seemingly insignificant choice could result in meeting someone you otherwise would not have. Every little thing in your life would have to be fate. That time I fell asleep and burned that app ...[text shortened]... sp could be important to how the future plays out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect
I can't believe they were all inevitable
@venda
Seems to me there are too many variables to say there is no free will.
Someone shoots at you, the wind moves the bullet that one inch out of the say so it misses. That example would be the uncontrolled forces of nature getting in the way of an intention to kill.
If we say there is no free will then you would be also saying some god controls the movement of every atom in the universe and runs things how it wants.
For one thing, I don't thing a god would set up such a situation where said god WANTS to control every atom in the universe.
That seems a stupid proposition from the get go.
I can't imagine a being with god like powers actually WANTING to control every atom in the universe.
Without that god running every atom in the universe, then the universe is in free flow and anything can happen, like the death knell dealt 66 million years ago marking the end of the age of dinosaurs.
One would have to imagine a god DECIDING it was time to end dinosaurs.
Just about as likely as Earth being flat.
@mlb62 saidIf all time exists at once then I cannot see that there is any such thing as time.
Sonhouse... your example of the soda straw introduces another dimension . That's confusing to me when trying to understand Time/Space. How can all time exist at once, when time is relative? So does that mean space (and dimensions) are relative, too ?
If it does not exist as a linear progression from point a to point b then it’s a separate thing from the concept we may have developed in order to make sense of our own perceptions.
Perhaps there are an infinite streams of time running simultaneously.
Would time exist with out the existence of sentience to experience it. Or is the illusion of time dependent on the existence of a sentient being.
@kevcvs57 saidI think both.
If all time exists at once then I cannot see that there is any such thing as time.
If it does not exist as a linear progression from point a to point b then it’s a separate thing from the concept we may have developed in order to make sense of our own perceptions.
Perhaps there are an infinite streams of time running simultaneously.
Would time exist with out the existence ...[text shortened]... ntience to experience it. Or is the illusion of time dependent on the existence of a sentient being.
Plants and creatures have little or no sense of time although some creatures will have memories eg "the last time I attacked this creature I had a bad experience"-a predator attacking a porcupine for example.
Very young children have little sense of time. Everything is "now".
They don't care what happened yesterday or what might happen tomorrow
@venda
My guess is those theorists are making the case that all the events in the universe, an asteroid hitting Earth killing dino's, the Vesuvius eruption and the like, are like stills on a movie where each 'still' is some coordinate system where each time hack is quantized, each time hack being something like 10 to the minus 33 seconds per hack as just an example and each tick follows another because of forces in the universe having been laid out or some such, where if you were a god, you could jump from time frame to time frame like looking at individual stills in a movie.
The thing is, that is all conjecture, there is nothing they can point to as a way to prove or disprove that concept. I think it fails the falsifiability test.
@sonhouse saidEach "frame" must be distinguishable from another by being given some unique label, or else there is an inherent order. The latter is more sensible, and is essentially a labeling scheme using the inherent order of the integers. This is an extra coordinate, otherwise known as a dimension, and we may as well call that dimension...time.
@ogb
I presume that means all time is like on a movie reel where we could see any time if we had the right tools.