Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I must admit that some if not most of the claims made by those advocating beer are difficult to believe. Some are even claiming that it has
Anti-Cancer Properties: A flavonoid compound called Xanthohumol is found in the hops commonly used in brewing beer. It has been seen to play a major role in the chemoprevention of cancer, including prostate ...[text shortened]... en' in fighting cancer. This appears to me to be quackery of the most cruel and insidious kind.
A flavonoid compound called Xanthohumol is found in the hops commonly used in brewing beer. It has been seen to play a major role in the chemoprevention of cancer, including prostate cancer.
WRONG!
Here is what the science says;
http://www.readersdigest.ca/food/healthy-food/antioxidant-myth/
The Antioxidant Myth
Free radicals bad, antioxidants good, right? For the supplements industry, the truth might be a hard pill to swallow
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evidence gathered over the past few years shows that, at best, antioxidant supplements do little or nothing to benefit our health. At worst, large doses could have the opposite effect, promoting the very problems they are supposed to stamp out.
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“People are still trying to defend it, but you don’t get an effect on free-radical damage unless you start with people with a vitamin C deficiency,” says Halliwell. “I think it’s a lost cause.” In fact, results from the vast US Women’s Health Study suggest vitamin C supplements may accelerate atherosclerosis in some diabetics.
One class of antioxidants that is still relatively unresearched is polyphenols. These again act as antioxidants in the test tube, but it is not clear how long they stay in the bloodstream. For example, most of the
flavonoid called resveratrol – the polyphenol found in red wine – is rapidly broken down and cleared from the body.
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If it is rapidly broken down and cleared from the body, it cannot have much biological effect let alone a measurable beneficial health effect!
Beer has been proven effective in fighting cancer, just like red wine.
WRONG!
Here is what science says;
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/05/13/red_wine_study/
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Boffins debunk red wine miracle antioxidant myth
Saddening news from US researchers who have demonstrated that quaffing red wine doesn't confer some of the alleged benefits attributed to the tipple, specifically the ability of the antioxidant resveratrol to "reduce deaths, cardiovascular disease or cancer".
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Now while I do not doubt that hops have these compounds I do find it incredulous to believe that these are 'proven' in fighting cancer.
you contradict yourself, you just said "Beer has been
proven effective in fighting cancer, just like red wine" now you imply you are not sure of this; you cannot assert both without contradicting yourself.
Do you really doubt it is 'proven' or have you already made up your mind? which?
Why not look at the real science evidence and ask us the experts here says is the truth rather than believe whatever you want to believe? If you don't want the truth, fine, just believe whatever you want to believe and don't bother asking us anything.
As you simply rudely dismiss and even sometimes dish out insults to us when you don't like what us the science experts say on the matter, why do you bother to ask us? What is your agenda here?
Please don't ask for expert info if you cannot accept the truth.
When I go to my doctor, I don't lecture to him about what is the 'correct' diagnosis and dismiss his diagnosis just because I don't like it; I humbly admit ignorance and accept his expert opinion over any opinion I might have. I am only entitled to disagree with him if he starts to talk about something other than medical but which I just happen to be an expert on, such as probability theory in relation to the analysis of personal sensory data (which is the main thing I am currently very intensively researching), what is scientific method esp as defined mathematically (which I am also currently intensively researching), A.I. basic physics/chemistry etc.