Originally posted by roma45
you again ignore the main point, you are siple-minded or for some personal reason seem to stick up for the easy riders every time there is a suggestion of a points removal,
when collusion takes place, three point plan
1] first offence remove points
2]second offence suspend clans
3] third offence boot players involved.

in chess bad behaviour should neve ...[text shortened]... URGED but thanks to a few on here punishments must be handed out.act as a warning to all players

It's like talking with a broken record.

Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
It's like talking with a broken record.

no time limit on roll back
no amnesty


what is your idea?
moan about russ moving at a snails pace and congratulating Robbie.

Originally posted by mghrn55
There are no points to remove.
The clan rating will be the metric of record.
As of Jan 1st, 2016.
Easy Riders for all their cheating have been pushed all the way to 4th place.

Besides, the clan statistics are now a mess.

Russ needs to sort through that first.
Every clan can look through their own statistics.
But Metallica did NOT win 1980 clan ...[text shortened]...
What a mess !!!!

Like Vespin says, let's all congratulate Carrobie for causing this mess !!

take a look how many challenges Wycombe played according to new scoring method in 2016, over 3,000 won, these statistics really are screwed up

Originally posted by Wycombe Al
take a look how many challenges Wycombe played according to new scoring method in 2016, over 3,000 won, these statistics really are screwed up

but some on here still think the ELO is great

time to boot the system for good

Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
It's like talking with a broken record.

or trying to reason with Daffy Duck. I agree wholeheartedly that its not good that clan ratings will not be unhinged from other ratings. At very least though sand baggers will not be allowed to effect the entire outcome of a challenge to the same extent as they did before.

Originally posted by Wycombe Al
take a look how many challenges Wycombe played according to new scoring method in 2016, over 3,000 won, these statistics really are screwed up

how many did you lose lose Al? Thats how ELO works, it has little to do with how many you win or lose but the ratio between your wins and losses.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
how many did you lose lose Al? Thats how ELO works, it has little to do with how many you win or lose but the ratio between your wins and losses.

You dolt !!

The statistics are wrong.
We are reporting a defect to Russ.
Site still wants us to report these so they can fix them as soon as possible.

And Russ has still encouraged feedback on his new proposal.
Which at this point is still a proposal.
And we will continue to provide that feedback.

You meanwhile are running around in circles not even coherent in your rantings.
Wetting your pants over your revolution.

Now go sit in the corner and let some sensible voices have the floor.

Originally posted by mghrn55
You dolt !!

The statistics are wrong.
We are reporting a defect to Russ.
Site still wants us to report these so they can fix them as soon as possible.

And Russ has still encouraged feedback on his new proposal.
Which at this point is still a proposal.
And we will continue to provide that feedback.

You meanwhile are running around in circles ...[text shortened]... s over your revolution.

Now go sit in the corner and let some sensible voices have the floor.

sensible voices like your whacko system? yeah sensible if you are a spangled rocket headed to see Mr. Spoon on the moon.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
sensible voices like your whacko system? yeah sensible if you are a spangled rocket headed to see Mr. Spoon on the moon.

Why don't you critique my proposal instead of running your mouth.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
how many did you lose lose Al? Thats how ELO works, it has little to do with how many you win or lose but the ratio between your wins and losses.

That's how ELO doesn't work

Originally posted by mghrn55
Further on the inaccurate clan statistics.

I looked at Metallica's clan challenge won lost record.
Counting the challenges from Jan 1st 2017.

Actual record is 45W 12L 9D
Yet the statistics show 167W 42L 36D.

Other clan members can look at their own clan statistics.
But this is really out of whack !!

I haven't really looked at the clan stand ...[text shortened]... n to pull data for the defect report to Russ.

Clan standings carry no meaning at the moment.

Perhaps they are being changed to make ELO look good ?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
how many did you lose lose Al? Thats how ELO works, it has little to do with how many you win or lose but the ratio between your wins and losses.

but we didn't play enough to win 3,000 in one year so what is that figure compiled from

Originally posted by Wycombe Al
but we didn't play enough to win 3,000 in one year so what is that figure compiled from

dunno, but ok, the system has some teething problems, its to be expected.

Originally posted by mghrn55
Why don't you critique my proposal instead of running your mouth.

because we have a viable system no need to waste time of crackpot ideas.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
because we have a viable system no need to waste time of crackpot ideas.

So why don't you shut the hell up with your crackpot ideas then?