1. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    29 Nov '15 07:37
    Question: Is the following construct sufficiently logical and/or intellectually honest for the purpose of an objective discussion?

    Thesis: God exists; He has always existed and has a plan of reconciliation for the entire human race.

    Antithesis: No, your "God" does not exist and therefore there is no such thing as a "plan of reconciliation for the entire human race".

    Synthesis: With reference to the "Thesis", it could be true.
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    02 Dec '15 14:11
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    [b]Question: Is the following construct sufficiently logical and/or intellectually honest for the purpose of an objective discussion?

    Thesis: God exists; He has always existed and has a plan of reconciliation for the entire human race.

    Antithesis: No, your "God" does not exist and therefore there is no such thing as a "plan of re ...[text shortened]... ntire human race".

    Synthesis: With reference to the "Thesis", it could be true.[/b]
    There is a flaw with the antithesis. It assumes that in a world without God there can be no "plan of reconciliation for the entire human race.". I'd say that there is no reason there couldn't be, it's just it would not be a divinely inspired one.
  3. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    Originally posted by DeepThought
    There is a flaw with the antithesis. It assumes that in a world without God there can be no "plan of reconciliation for the entire human race.". I'd say that there is no reason there couldn't be, it's just it would not be a divinely inspired one.
    DT, it's incredibly difficult to locate much less find something you're not actively thinking about and/or actually looking for.

    In my view, the sole alternative is to abandon the search prematurely, i.e. before all possible options have been thoroughly explored and then to live in a house of temporal misconceptions and shattered eternal possibilities. What if it does exist as a "divinely inspired one" ["reason"] and is still alive and well on the face of the earth and beyond the human outposts of the unexplored infinite spatial universe? -GB
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    27 Dec '15 21:51
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    There is a flaw with the antithesis. It assumes that in a world without God there can be no "plan of reconciliation for the entire human race.". I'd say that there is no reason there couldn't be, it's just it would not be a divinely inspired one.
    The only problem with the logic: a "plan" requires a "planner."
    Without the latter, the former cannot occur.
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    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    The only problem with the logic: a "plan" requires a "planner."
    Without the latter, the former cannot occur.
    Are humans not capable of planning for themselves?
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    29 Dec '15 04:52
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    Are humans not capable of planning for themselves?
    Your logic works great when it's allowed to isolate the concepts.

    The statement speaks of a reconciliation: to whom is the human race to be reconciled?
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    29 Dec '15 08:05
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    Your logic works great when it's allowed to isolate the concepts.

    The statement speaks of a reconciliation: to whom is the human race to be reconciled?
    With its Creator, of course.
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    29 Dec '15 08:12
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    Your logic works great when it's allowed to isolate the concepts.

    The statement speaks of a reconciliation: to whom is the human race to be reconciled?
    The human race reconciling with itself would be a good start.
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    29 Dec '15 10:302 edits
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    DT, it's incredibly difficult to locate much less find something you're not actively thinking about and/or actually looking for.

    In my view, the sole alternative is to abandon the search prematurely, i.e. before all possible options have been thoroughly explored and then to live in a house of temporal misconceptions and shattered eternal possibiliti ...[text shortened]... face of the earth and beyond the human outposts of the unexplored infinite spatial universe? -GB
    Have you ever considered the possibility that you could be wrong; about anything Christianity related at all?
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    29 Dec '15 12:05
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Have you ever considered the possibility that you could be wrong; about anything Christianity related at all?
    Have you?
  11. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    Originally posted by divegeester
    Have you ever considered the possibility that you could be wrong; about anything Christianity related at all?
    Yes. All believers in Christ who are growing in grace, by systematically exposing themselves to the accurate teaching of the Word of God,
    eventually realize that growth is a process in which knowledge gradually replaces ignorance. on various points of doctrine.
  12. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    02 Feb '16 08:04
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    There is a flaw with the antithesis. It assumes that in a world without God there can be no "plan of reconciliation for the entire human race.". I'd say that there is no reason there couldn't be, it's just it would not be a divinely inspired one.
    DT, given the hypothetical "in a world without God",
    the only "reconciliation" possible would be human to human or horizontal/temporal
    rather than human to deity or vertical/eternal.
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    02 Feb '16 12:30
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    [b]"10 Things I Wish Christians Considered Before Arguing with Atheists" (By Michael Lehmann: February 9, 2015)

    "Mike Lehmann edits Jesus & Dawkins, a blog that looks at the intersection of Christianity, science, and atheism. We asked him to list 10 things he wishes Christians knew before arguing with atheists about God."

    "1. Make su ...[text shortened]... tians-considered-before-arguing-with-atheists/36113
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    Your thoughts?
    I don't consider any of that. 😏
  14. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    04 Feb '16 05:18
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I don't consider any of that. 😏
    Please clarify your reply.
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    04 Feb '16 05:58
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Have you?
    All the time.
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