Originally posted by chaney3
Please allow me to give my opinion here, for I have been reading this back and forth debate. It seems crystal clear to me that sonship just proclaimed that Jesus IS God. And, if I am correct....you robbie do NOT believe that Jesus IS God. Isn't this the crux of the 'worship' problem. I am really interested in the debate to WHO Jesus actually is between Christians and Jehovah Witnesses.
Yes I shall be quite clear, Sonship in his idolatry believes that Jesus Christ is God Almighty, I profess that he is a created entity, the son of God.
the crux of the matter is not only this, it is the use of corrupt and inaccurate translation (continually used by sonship in full knowledge of the fact) that often leads to confusion. Many times there are texts that are doctored, rendered in an inaccurate way often deceitfully by trinitarians who wish to impose their religious bias on scripture where none exists ion the original. I will often take them to task as I am doing here, to provided a valid and rational basis for their claims. As you can see there is a great discrepancy used with the term that is rendered in relation to Jesus Christ as worship, elsewhere its use is rendered as simply bow down, do obeisance, prostrate oneself etc etc
for example, Revelation 3:9
New International Version
I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars--I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.
New Living Translation
Look, I will force those who belong to Satan's synagogue--those liars who say they are Jews but are not--to come and bow down at your feet. They will acknowledge that you are the ones I love.
English Standard Version
Behold, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and they will learn that I have loved you.
New American Standard Bible
Behold, I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie-- I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and make them know that I have loved you.
You can see that each of these English versions render the text as bow down, fall down at your feet etc etc We are trying to ascertain why in Jesus is a special case and the term suddenly becomes an act of worship, so far we have no evidence just some trash talk.