29 Feb 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieTaking elements from three extremist groups you deem to be cults and defining a cult that way ~ a kind of reverse engineering ~ only results in you getting a definition that you like (or that suits your purpose). One has to find a broader definition that explains why less extreme groups are also perceived as, and deemed to be, cults by many people who use the term.
Cults i think generally have a charismatic leader, for example, Scientology with its emphasis on the teachings of Hubbard, or more militant ones like Aum Shinrikyo, the Japanese Domesday cult which let off poisonous gas on the Japanese metro system under the influence of the teachings of Shoko Asahara. We can think of others like the David Koresh leader of the Branch Dvaidians of Waco, Texas.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieAre you ignoring my OP in Thread 167705 ...again...robbie? 🙂
I also think that cults tend to be secretive.
02 Mar 16
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Originally posted by wolfgang59There is only one definition to what cult means.
When is a cult not a cult?
Do you belong to a cult?
Is it a derogatory word or neutral?
Wiki says
In the sociological classifications of religious movements in
English, a cult is a religious or social group with socially
deviant or novel beliefs and practices.
but goes on to say
[i] However, whether any particular group's beliefs and ...[text shortened]... Protestantism a Christian cult.
And Mormonism and JWs and Southern Baptists and ...
Cults??
...........a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
Any other meaning is false.
In these current times the word cult has taken on a negative meaning.
*Did you know that the Swastika used by the Nazi's is actually a Vedic symbol of unity, but it has taken on a sinister meaning due to its association with the Nazis in the second world war.
Hitler along with the British tried to destroy the Vedas, because they both could see and understand the power of the Vedas and how the Vedas could challenge the status quo of the Third Reich and the Christian Judaic influence.
So as with the word cult..................it has been misunderstood, but only by ignorant persons.
03 Mar 16
Originally posted by Metacomedian"Novel" is too confining, in that it means "new".
If being "novel" is a requirement, than a cult is just a religion in its infancy.
"Out of the mainstream" might be saying it better. The question is, "how far out of the mainstream?" Cult usually don't attain their "cult" status until they start exhibiting "fringe" behavior.
03 Mar 16
Originally posted by DasaI see why discussion is not your forte.
There is only one definition to what cult means.
...........a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
Any other meaning is false.
In these current times the word cult has taken on a negative meaning.
*Did you know that the Swastika used by the Nazi's is actually a Vedic symbol of unity, but it h ...[text shortened]... as with the word cult..................it has been misunderstood, but only by ignorant persons.
11 Mar 16
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Originally posted by SuzianneI will discuss , but people do not take me up and run with the ball when I make comment.
I see why discussion is not your forte.
Instead.....................They just make sarcastic remarks and say nothing.
Just like you yourself have just done.
You have not engaged me is discussion but simply made some silly remark.
Originally posted by DasaThere is no discourse with you, you only want one way flow of information, from your pet guru through you, the grand intermediary to us heathen. Your arrogance sticks out like a broken nose on a fighter. It makes everything you say stink with dishonesty.
I will discuss , but people do not take me up and run with the ball when I make comment.
Instead.....................They just make sarcastic remarks and say nothing.
Just like you yourself have just done.
You have not engaged me is discussion but simply made some silly remark.
I'm not the only one who has pointed out your asinine arrogance. It seems part of your online persona.
If we met in person would you be so abrasive? I doubt it. You use the net as your shield so you can express your hatred with zero consequences.
BTW, that is not the sign of an evolved person. You can't be arrogant and spiritual at the same time. They are incompatible
12 Mar 16
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Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeIt rises up above the forest and gazes all around
A raven croaks on a gargoyled precipice,
it comes to feast on the dead,
It swoops down low on Robbie Carrobie,
and plucks an eye from his head.
and spots a much more juicy prospect fumbling upon the ground
Tis Suzianne drunk with love and falling all about
where is that dearest Robbie I must find him lest my heart gives out
