Originally posted by karoly aczel The point is whether if there is any chance of recovery
I understood that's what you probably had in mind with "Million Dollar Baby".
I was asking your opinion on a general voluntary euthanasia where it is solely the decision of the individual, so long as they are not incapacitated or have let their wishes be known via a living will.
Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke No Joe, Hitler would be a bad example, and by recognised internet protocol, mention of Hitler automatically loses you the argument.
Example:
Peter. "I don't like cats."
Joe. "That sounds like something Hitler would say."
I don't think you, thinkofnothing or karoly are following the thread.
Originally posted by ThinkOfOne I understood that's what you probably had in mind with "Million Dollar Baby".
I was asking your opinion on a general voluntary euthanasia where it is solely the decision of the individual, so long as they are not incapacitated or have let their wishes be known via a living will.
Absolutely the decision of the individual.
The fact that the "state" has taken over our bodies is sign that we are living in a matrix/alien - type world.
In my state suicide is illegal. Think about that for a moment
Originally posted by karoly aczel Absolutely the decision of the individual.
The fact that the "state" has taken over our bodies is sign that we are living in a matrix/alien - type world.
In my state suicide is illegal. Think about that for a moment
Sounds like the state is holding up the sanctity of life where you live. Is not life sacred?
The state exists to prevent morons from harming themselves or others because some people are just too stupid to know better. Maybe you'll think about that for a moment, but probably not.
Originally posted by karoly aczel Absolutely the decision of the individual.
The fact that the "state" has taken over our bodies is sign that we are living in a matrix/alien - type world.
In my state suicide is illegal. Think about that for a moment
Most people don't care that much, unless it is for political or some askew ideology.
But if you or your family was affected you may well think of it quite differently.
I'll repeat :suicide is illegal in Queensland (my state). This is the height of stupidity and the failure of governments to address this problem is a sham.
This country which is more or less the best we have in the world. If you don't have a job the government will subsidize you because it can ( smalll poplation)
So no reason not to stay alive in a relatively good way.
Then why the high suicide rate? expecially amongst youth? Another example that capitalism and redneck values have a real toll in the country towns in Australia
Originally posted by josephw Sounds like the state is holding up the sanctity of life where you live. Is not life sacred?
The state exists to prevent morons from harming themselves or others because some people are just too stupid to know better. Maybe you'll think about that for a moment, but probably not.
The state doesn't care about morons harming themselves (and it certainly doesn't exist to prevent self harm). They are worried about lawsuits in this over politically correct world
Originally posted by karoly aczel Absolutely the decision of the individual.
The fact that the "state" has taken over our bodies is sign that we are living in a matrix/alien - type world.
In my state suicide is illegal. Think about that for a moment
Originally posted by JS357 Repeat offenders get the death penalty.
Just complete systematic failure. And the suicide rates are substantial.
Of course they don't mind spending 100 000's on cameras on tall bridges so "authorities" can intervene. But I rarely hear of anyone getting adequate effective counselling. They'll be cutting those camera wires soon.
Point is, like smoking weed (for example) it is fairly hard to police.
There would seem to be a reasonable case for voluntary ( or assisted suicide ) but what about the grey areas, like alzheimer's where a person is no longer capable understanding ?
Originally posted by ThinkOfOne".
I was asking your opinion on a general voluntary euthanasia where it is solely the decision of the individual, so long as they are not incapacitated or have let their wishes be known via a living will.
We should force incapacitated people to stick around? What is the moral guideline utilized here.
Originally posted by josephw Sounds like the state is holding up the sanctity of life where you live. Is not life sacred?
The state exists to prevent morons from harming themselves or others because some people are just too stupid to know better. Maybe you'll think about that for a moment, but probably not.
morons?
Probably more like psychologically disturbed individuals who need proper care rather than being locked up for attempting suicide
Euthanasia
14 Feb '17 22:20
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