12 May 15
Originally posted by C HessSo we have determined that evolution is a process without intelligence and evolution is not the process that created life.
A process evolution is. A process intelligent cannot be. Requires a mind does intelligence. A mind evolution has not. Why? Because a process evolution is.
So what is it about this process that allows it to change what we call simpe life that it could not create to more complex forms of life?
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Originally posted by RJHindsReproductive variation and an ever changing and varied environment (allowing different variations to survive and fill their own niches). Next question.
So we have determined that evolution is a process without intelligence and evolution is not the process that created life.
So what is it about this process that allows it to change what we call simpe life that it could not create to more complex forms of life?
12 May 15
Originally posted by C HessBut that does not seem any different from what creationists believe. We agree with reproductive variation and adaptation but have no need to call on evolution for that. That in no way creates more complex forms of life. That only accounts for variations of the same kind of life.
Reproductive variation and an ever changing and varied environment (allowing different variations to survive and fill their own niches). Next question.
So how does the evolution process change a simple cell organism into a more complex organism, like a fish; and how does it change a monkey or chimpanzee into a man?
I thought evilutionist's claim is that evolution has the power to change living cells from one kind to another, that is, evolution changes fish to amphibians or reptiles to birds or to mammals or monkeys to men and things like that.
That is what I mean when I asked the question:
How does the evolution process that allows it to change what we call simple life that it could not create to more complex forms of life?
13 May 15
Originally posted by RJHindsA perfect process without intelligence.
So we have determined that evolution is a process without intelligence and evolution is not the process that created life.
So what is it about this process that allows it to change what we call simpe life that it could not create to more complex forms of life?
You are certainly dishonest trying to articulate a lie.
The real problem you have is not in creation at all.................but with a crazy false creation story from the Bible.
The true creation story is in the Vedas.........(the true Vedas ) and not the false Vedas that you find on-line from the many false Vedic prophets.
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13 May 15
Originally posted by RJHindsI'm sorry, but that is what Darwin discovered, and what we call evolution.
But that does not seem any different from what creationists believe. We agree with reproductive variation and adaptation but have no need to call on evolution for that.
You take three tiny steps forward, and it seems you won't get very far. You keep taking tiny steps forward for a year, and it's incredible how far you will have walked.
Originally posted by DasaYou don't seem to be able to admit that all the vedas are false, whether on-line or off-line.
A perfect process without intelligence.
You are certainly dishonest trying to articulate a lie.
The real problem you have is not in creation at all.................but with a crazy false creation story from the Bible.
The true creation story is in the Vedas.........(the true Vedas ) and not the false Vedas that you find on-line from the many false Vedic prophets.
Originally posted by C HessBut there are no steps forward in what Darwin discovered. The steps or either sideways or backward. What you are referring to is an imaginary evolution devised in the evil minds of men calling themselves atheist.
I'm sorry, but that is what Darwin discovered, and what we call evolution.
You take three tiny steps forward, and it seems you won't get very far. You keep taking tiny steps forward for a year, and it's incredible how far you will have walked.
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13 May 15
Originally posted by RJHindsTake three tiny steps sideways and two backwards. Keep doing that for a year and you will still be far from where you began.
But there are no steps forward in what Darwin discovered. The steps or either sideways or backward. What you are referring to is an imaginary evolution devised in the evil minds of men calling themselves atheist.
13 May 15
Originally posted by C HessI call that degeneration.
Take three tiny steps sideways and two backwards. Keep doing that for a year and you will still be far from where you began.
Definition of DEGENERATION
1: degenerate condition
2: a lowering of effective power, vitality, or essential quality to an enfeebled and worsened kind of state
3: intellectual, moral, or artistic decline
4a: progressive deterioration of physical characters from a level representing the norm of earlier generations or forms
b: deterioration of a tissue or an organ in which its function is diminished or its structure is impaired
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/degeneration
DEGENERATION
1: a lowering of power, vitality, or essential quality to a feebler and poorer kind or state
2
a: a change in a tissue or an organ resulting in lessened activity or usefulness
<kidney degeneration in old age>
b: a condition marked by degeneration of physical parts (as organs) present in related forms
<tapeworms exhibit extreme degeneration>
http://www.wordcentral.com/cgi-bin/student?book=Student&va=degeneration
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13 May 15
Originally posted by RJHindsWell, yeah, if you literally walk sideways and backwards for a full year I'd say that's a pretty degenerate behaviour. With biological development however, whatever direction works is good. What is backwards from your perspective is forwards for a different species with different specialisations in nature.
I call that degeneration.
Originally posted by C Hess
Well, yeah, if you literally walk sideways and backwards for a full year I'd say that's a pretty degenerate behaviour. With biological development however, whatever direction works is good. What is backwards from your perspective is forwards for a different species with different specialisations in nature.
Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes And clever in their own sight!
(Isaiah 5:20-21 NASB)
13 May 15
Originally posted by RJHindsThat sounds very much like something an evil person or entity would say.Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes And clever in their own sight!
(Isaiah 5:20-21 NASB)
14 May 15
Originally posted by RJHindsThat is such an mature thing to say.
You don't seem to be able to admit that all the vedas are false, whether on-line or off-line.
It is the fabricated religion called Christianity that defends and partakes in animal cruelty and animal slaughter and animal eating // and with a 6000 yr old cosmos the people only have one life .........BUT ALL the inhabitants on earth are certainly not equal in terms of birth and intelligence and circumstances.......yet the unfortunate people who do not surrender to this false religion which is 98% of the population are all going to burn in hell.
This absurd falsity found in Christianity is for foolish and dishonest people.