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Originally posted by FMFWhen it's necessary. When confronted by people who believe my beliefs are ridiculous and nonsensical.
The banter goes both ways. You yourself are pretty unrelenting don't you think?
Originally posted by SuzianneSo you think it's OK for people to call each others beliefs ridiculous or nonsensical, is that what you mean? 😀
Just as I do not recall any atheists here ever criticizing any atheists for calling Christian beliefs ridiculous or nonsensical. If anything, they always agree.
Originally posted by Proper KnobSorry Proper Knob. I have contributed to your thread losing its rudder for its first page as Suzianne seemed to want to air her feelings of being persecuted rather than participate in an examination of KellyJay's ideology. I apologise.
Originally posted by josephwDo you not think that there are some ethnic and religious groups whose ideology is informed by their having been persecuted? I, for one, admit to thinking there is at least one such ethno-religious group for whom persecution (actual persecution has occurred to them, I agree) has become fundamental to their faith, and therefore the belief that it has ended will never come to them, or it will be retained only by their more zealous adherents.
Personally, I don't feel persecuted here in this forum, or anywhere else for that matter, but don't you think the Christians posting in this forum take it on the cheek often enough?
It's one thing to have the things one says criticized, and another to have one's person vilified, much less the person of the Lord Jesus Christ.
What was that that Jesus said? "Every word..."
Originally posted by JS357Looking back I realize that me and my family - when I was a kid - were discriminated against to a degree and perceived in a certain [derogatory] way that I did not fully understand at the time ~ I came to understand the ideologies that underpinned the prejudice later. It was mild and inconsequential compared to what my parents faced when they were young. In their case, however, I don't think it resulted in their ideology being accentuated (or informed, as you put it) in any significant way.
Do you not think that there are some ethnic and religious groups whose ideology is informed by their having been persecuted?
Originally posted by Proper KnobI am sort of amazed many of the Christians here didn’t speak up about this, because I don’t think having God in your life is unique at all. The whole point of Christianity is our walk with God being restored, if it were anything less, than it would be just one of many belief systems completely undistinguishable from all the other flavors of the month. Christianity is what takes place when we accept God’s gift to us, it isn’t something we can earn it isn’t something we can work for it is all on God.
So this doesn't get lost in the mix, and also because you don't seem to have answered my questions (even though you said you would) which i asked a few days ago now.
'You have no clue how a Christian have Christ in their life!'
Can you elaborate on this, and also explain the 'reality' and your 'relationship' with Jesus.
Originally posted by twhiteheadI am not convinced that the actual content of posts Suzianne is replying to has much to do with her efforts at "Kicking ass" as she puts it in her profile. I think it's got more to do with the name of the poster. 😀
You clearly don't read many of my posts.
Originally posted by twhiteheadI think it may just be a matter of perspective. Things may seem lopsided here or there, but across the board globally, I don't think we'll ever really know the whole truth about persecution.
I think on average, the atheists are more polite than the theists. If theists seem to be having a harder time of it, maybe its because they are trying to defend an indefensible position?
Originally posted by FMFNo one is justified in vilifying another just because of a disagreement. Reveal Hidden Content
But don't you think Suzianne is rather more disposed towards the personal vilification of fellow posters than most of the other regulars here? Take a look at her last month's worth of posts for example. I know it's just the internet and I know she's just having fun [her profile says "I'm back and posting as usual. Kicking ass and taking names"] but is she really justified in trying to vilify Proper Knob with her first post on this thread? 🙂
Originally posted by josephwThen you would be well advised to remember that. Theists come under criticism most often on this forum when they make claims that they cannot defend and don't actually believe themselves, or simply haven't thought through.
Pure Christianity is an indefensible position.
Originally posted by JS357I do. Here we use words, not clubs. I am enjoying the freedom to engage in debate and some heated arguments. I don't get a sense of being persecuted.
Do you not think that there are some ethnic and religious groups whose ideology is informed by their having been persecuted?
Originally posted by twhiteheadTrue.
Then you would be well advised to remember that. Theists come under criticism most often on this forum when they make claims that they cannot defend and don't actually believe themselves, or simply haven't thought through.