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Originally posted by josephwThat is merely a word defined as my question. It is not an answer.
Justice.
Originally posted by josephwWhat makes up justice? What makes something just? What makes something fair or not fair?
Can you clarify the question?
Originally posted by twhiteheadNot correct! That mentality leads to an endless cycle of dead end reasoning.
What makes up justice? What makes something just? What makes something fair or not fair?
Deepthought suggests that if you have good reason to believe a certain course of action is the correct one, then it is unfair to punish you for taking that course of action. Is this stance correct?
Originally posted by twhiteheadMy point was about free will rather than incomplete or false information. With human justice someone acting on incomplete or false information could expect that to be a mitigation - I assume that would be the case in the divine case - but would we be considered to have sufficient information?
What makes up justice? What makes something just? What makes something fair or not fair?
Deepthought suggests that if you have good reason to believe a certain course of action is the correct one, then it is unfair to punish you for taking that course of action. Is this stance correct?
Originally posted by DeepThoughtYes. According to God's Word man will be without excuse because all that exists is evidence for God's existence.
My point was about free will rather than incomplete or false information. With human justice someone acting on incomplete or false information could expect that to be a mitigation - I assume that would be the case in the divine case - but would we be considered to have sufficient information?
Originally posted by DeepThoughtSo how much information would make it 'fair'?
My point was about free will rather than incomplete or false information. With human justice someone acting on incomplete or false information could expect that to be a mitigation - I assume that would be the case in the divine case - but would we be considered to have sufficient information?
Originally posted by twhiteheadWhat you really mean is you're not certain that absolute justice exists.
I understand what you are saying. I personally don't think any such absolute justice exists.
Originally posted by josephwNo, I meant I do not think absolute justice exists.
What you really mean is you're not certain that absolute justice exists.
Originally posted by RJHinds(putting on my pretendo-christian hat on for this)
1. If God exists, why wouldn't He create what He wanted fully formed rather than let whatever would be evolve from nothing over billions or so years?
2. If God exists, why would God take 13.72 billion years to create a world when He could do it in 6 days?
3. If God exists, why would God make man in the image of God, rather than just let whatever evolve from a primordial pool.
Originally posted by josephwIncorrect. 2 examples so that you might comprehend;
Do you hear that? There is no justice if two or more opposing standards of right and wrong exists. Does that make sense to you?
Originally posted by stellspalfie1. Children are born, not created.
(putting on my pretendo-christian hat on for this)
1 -i guess you would rather your children popped into existence as fully formed adults.
2 -why would he take 6 days if he could do it in 6 nano seconds.
3 -maybe every living thing is in the image of god.
Originally posted by RJHindsThis is therefor evidence that God, as described by you in the OP, does not exist.
1. Children are born, not created.
Originally posted by RJHinds1- did yourself and mrs hinds not create your children? did the stalk bring them?
1. Children are born, not created.
2. The reason the creation was 6 days is to give humans an example of a work week.
3. I am in the image of God, animals and bugs are not.