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    "You can decide to get into situations where you might fall in love. You can decide to do what it takes to nurture and preserve love. But you can't decide to be in love with someone. Something very similar applies to having faith."

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    Love is an emotion centred on a tangible thing. Faith is an emotion/hope based on something intangible. Both though are not based on decision.
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    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    Love is an emotion centred on a tangible thing. Faith is an emotion/hope based on something intangible. Both though are not based on decision.
    If I have faith in you, does my faith make you intangible? I hope not! I have faith that you will put FMF in his place on love, tangibly.

    He must have been a lovable Christian, at one time.
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    @pettytalk said
    If I have faith in you, does my faith make you intangible? I hope not! I have faith that you will put FMF in his place on love, tangibly.

    He must have been a lovable Christian, at one time.
    If I have faith in you, does my faith make you intangible?

    A person, like a wife or a child, for example, is tangible: they constitute a physical presence [unless one is talking about a memory]. Jesus, for example - who has been dead for 2,000 years - is something intangible: a notion, a concept, or an idea that inspires the aspirations that comprise faith. This is the tangible-intangible contrast that Ghost of a Duke was alluding to. I say this just in case your wordplay is, indeed, the best you can do.
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    @fmf said
    "You can decide to get into situations where you might fall in love. You can decide to do what it takes to nurture and preserve love. But you can't decide to be in love with someone. Something very similar applies to having faith."

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    Who then decides for those that have "decided" to have faith?

    I take it that you mean to say that there's no free will when it comes to love and faith?

    Who makes us fall in love, if it's not our own decision? Cupid?
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    @fmf said

    A person, like a wife or a child, for example, is tangible: they constitute a physical This is the tangible-intangible contrast that Ghost of a Duke was alluding to. I say this just in case your wordplay is, indeed, the best you can do.
    I never do my best, since I'm lazy, by nature. I just do enough, as the occasion mandates. Perhaps enough is good enough for you, I hope.
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    @pettytalk said
    Who then decides for those that have "decided" to have faith?
    The way I see it, people don't decide to have faith.
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    @pettytalk said
    I take it that you mean to say that there's no free will when it comes to love and faith?
    This silly question makes it clear that you did not understand the exchanges we had on this a couple of weeks ago.
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    @pettytalk said
    Who makes us fall in love, if it's not our own decision? Cupid?
    I don't think it's a decision. I think both faith [in supernatural things] and love are things we realize we have and not things we decide to have.
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    @pettytalk said
    I never do my best, since I'm lazy, by nature. I just do enough, as the occasion mandates. Perhaps enough is good enough for you, I hope.
    I wish you were a better poster. The forum would benefit from it.
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    @fmf said
    I wish you were a better poster. The forum would benefit from it.
    The gaslighting continues.
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    @suzianne said
    The gaslighting continues.
    If you think PettyTalk has acquitted himself well in his exchanges with me, then so be it. It's a matter for you.
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    @fmf said
    I don't think it's a decision. I think both faith [in supernatural things] and love are things we realize we have and not things we decide to have.
    Decide and decision are closely related. Have and decide are far apart, unless one decides to have, at which time, in having, one no longer decides to have, having it already.

    Perhaps if you learned how to express yourself better, the forum would benefit from your worthy language skills. You don't say what you mean, and don't mean what you say. We can't help but love you, as we always have you.

    We posses your attention, no matter what we say. Say it with love, and mean it, if you claim to have it. And for Christ's sake, get your faith back, if you say you had it.

    Perhaps it's a matter of you never having it. As they say, you can't lose what you never had.

    Checkout Obsessive-compulsive disorder, you may have it. Ask your physician if OCR is right for you.

    Save the wedding bells for my returning,
    Keep my lover's arms outstretched and yearning,
    Please be sure the flame of love keeps burning.

    That's enough, o worthy compulsive poster, it's time for us to part, because what you have can be highly contagious.

    Good-bye!
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    @pettytalk said
    Decide and decision are closely related. Have and decide are far apart, unless one decides to have, at which time, in having, one no longer decides to have, having it already.
    You either don't understand my point of view, or you are pretending not to.
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    @pettytalk said
    Perhaps if you learned how to express yourself better, the forum would benefit from your worthy language skills. You don't say what you mean, and don't mean what you say.
    This is nonsense.
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