Originally posted by vivify There's an OT law commanding women to get stoned if she's not a virgin when she's married. So no sex before marriage existed before Christianity.
I don't think that is correct.
The verses I think you are referring to recommend stoning the woman
for deception ie pretending she is a virgin on the wedding night.
Originally posted by wolfgang59 I had a Jewish friend who was shagging a Rabbi at every opportunity. She
told me that the nowhere in the OT does it say sex before marriage is wrong.
So my question is; why was it wrong after Jesus?
a woman that proved to not be a virgin on wedding night was to be stoned. what do you think that says about this matter?
Originally posted by robbie carrobie really? why do you think that if two people are not 'well connected', that healthy sexual relations might constitute a problem?
to be more frank;
would you buy a car without a test drive first?
Originally posted by wolfgang59 to be more frank;
would you buy a car without a test drive first?
A women is not a car, but a human being and potential marriage partner with feelings and emotions. A husband should not treat a potential bride like a whore.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie really? why do you think that if two people are not 'well connected', that healthy sexual relations might constitute a problem?
do you think everybody who have a good connections as people, will also have a good sexual connection?
Originally posted by RJHinds A women is not a car, but a human being and potential marriage partner with feelings and emotions. A husband should not treat a potential bride like a whore.
and sexual desires, how gutted will she be if she only finds out on her wedding day that the man of her dreams cant fulfil her desires, 60+ more years with a scratch she cant itch.
Originally posted by RJHinds A women is not a car, but a human being and potential marriage partner with feelings and emotions. A husband should not treat a potential bride like a whore.
I dare say I treat women a whole lot better than you!
Their having sex would consummate their marriage. Once you get to that point you are intimately connected as a couple. The ceremony is superficial to the union before Yahweh. Though the exchange of vows and conferral of grace is very important to a lasting marriage.
Originally posted by Of Ants and Imps Their having sex would consummate their marriage. Once you get to that point you are intimately connected as a couple. The ceremony is superficial to the union before Yahweh. Though the exchange of vows and conferral of grace is very important to a lasting marriage.
But if one does not mean for this to be a marriage, he should go ahead and pay his money up front, so it is all clear and fair to the woman.
Originally posted by wolfgang59 I had a Jewish friend who was shagging a Rabbi at every opportunity. She
told me that the nowhere in the OT does it say sex before marriage is wrong.