26 Feb 15
Originally posted by googlefudgeWell there are some people who put their hope in evolution. I wouldn't know why?
Why would someone "put their hope in" evolution??
That's like asking if someone puts their hope in gravity.
Also... food???
I mean most people would certainly hope FOR food...
We have this habit of dying without it...
But putting hope IN food?
Food obviously to stay alive.
26 Feb 15
Originally posted by googlefudgeI'm hoping my cat evolves into a race of super-intelligent felines that one day in the future will come back to our time with a cure for arthritis and a
Name me ONE person who "puts their hope in evolution".
speed-learning course for grand-master chess.
I think this is a reasonable expectation.
So I advise everyone: Repent and be nice to your cat.
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26 Feb 15
Originally posted by RJHindsI'm not saying she should, in fact if you bother to read my posts from page 1 of this thread you will see I'm leaning quite heavily the opposite way.
Suzianne has shared the hope she has, but why should she throw her pearls before swine and get them trampled under their feet?
Perhaps you should take your concerns up with kellyjay who seems to think Christians should express their salvation stories...but then seems not also. Who really knows what goes on in the mind of kellyjay.
Originally posted by JS357I know I've shared an apartment with a Muslim from Jordon while we were
So are Muslims.
Questioning each other's performance in "sharing" their hope looks like "holier than thou" self-righteous nosing in on other people's personal exercise of their faith.
going to school, we had many a discussion on God. With respect to being
holier than thou you fail to understand Christianity if you believe that, since
we are ALL sinners, there are none of us better than the next guy. Our
righteousness comes from Jesus Christ not ourselves!
27 Feb 15
Originally posted by RBHILLThere are many kinds of hope. You could have hope for your parents, that they don't end up alone in a nursing home. You could have hope for your children, that they don't end up dead or in prison. You could have hope for humanity in general, that they come to God and do not follow the AntiChrist in the tribulation. You could have hope for our planet, that humans do not plunder and rape her to the point where she can no longer support life. You could have hope for your country, that people support your choice for President and move the country in the right direction.
Well what do you put your hope in? God's word, evolution, man, your gift of singleness, your children, your parents, liberalism, food, ext.?
I'm not sure what you're getting at with this question. I put my hope in many things, no one thing has my exclusive hope. But these are all things which have a lack of perfection, and so if I have hope for them, that hope is not misplaced. I have no "hope" for things which are perfect, i.e. God, Jesus, or the Word of God. They will continue to be perfect with or without my "hope". What can my "hope" do for them? I can have faith in them, that they can continue to mold and shape imperfect me, but I put no "hope" in things that are perfect. Their promises (to me, to mankind) will be made manifest in their time, no amount of "hoping" can change that, or even hasten them along.
28 Feb 15
Originally posted by KellyJaySo if one finds some Christians to be on a distinctly "holier than thou" trip, you are saying they aren't really on a "holier than thou" trip, it's just that one is failing to "understand Christianity" if one thinks they are, is that what you mean?
With respect to being holier than thou you fail to understand Christianity if you believe that, since we are ALL sinners, there are none of us better than the next guy. Our righteousness comes from Jesus Christ not ourselves!
04 Mar 15
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyHave you written to all the Bible publishers to suggest that they use the word "expect" ~ or some such ~ rather than "hope"?
The English word "hope" in the Koine Greek of the New Testament is "elpis which means confident expectation of favorable outcome not the vague wishful thinking of "Well, I hope so". Issue isn't the word but the authority backing up the promise.
04 Mar 15
Originally posted by KellyJayAnd the alternative is grim.
I know I've shared an apartment with a Muslim from Jordon while we were
going to school, we had many a discussion on God. With respect to being
holier than thou you fail to understand Christianity if you believe that, since
we are ALL sinners, there are none of us better than the next guy. Our
righteousness comes from Jesus Christ not ourselves!
04 Mar 15
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyWell, this is an interesting spin on it, since when I hear the word "hope" I always think of this "vague, wishful thinking" you're talking about. "Confident expectation of favorable outcome" is not a definition I've thought about much. As a believer, I take the authority of God as a given. I'm sure all Christians with even a modicum of faith do too. So, in this sense, asking another Christian what their 'hope' is based on seems oxymoronic. My faith in God translates directly to a "confident expectation" that what He says will happen will come to pass. The difficulty here is cutting through all the hyperbole and false meaning that humans have placed on the Word of God to cut through to the truth. But that means abandoning one's ego, and not taking God's authority from Him and donning it like one's own robe, and that is indeed a tall order for some.
The English word "hope" in the Koine Greek of the New Testament is "elpis which means confident expectation of favorable outcome not the vague wishful thinking of "Well, I hope so". Issue isn't the word but the authority backing up the promise.
04 Mar 15
Originally posted by SuzianneWhy don't you believe the first chapter of Genesis is not from God's authority? It is stated that God created the heavens and earth and animals to bring forth after their kind as taking less than a week's time. Whereas you have claimed it took billions of years.
Well, this is an interesting spin on it, since when I hear the word "hope" I always think of this "vague, wishful thinking" you're talking about. "Confident expectation of favorable outcome" is not a definition I've thought about much. As a believer, I take the authority of God as a given. I'm sure all Christians with even a modicum of faith do too. So, ...[text shortened]... authority from Him and donning it like one's own robe, and that is indeed a tall order for some.