What non-believers struggle with -

@divegeester said
Ghost of a Duke, FMF and myself use to discuss the goings on in this forum, the dishonesty, the furtiveness, and the astonishing behaviours exhibited by some of the more, shall we say interesting characters. Your name never came up as I remember although there may be a small file buried somewhere.

There’s a long thread on Romans1009, his filthy abuse, his removal from the site, his attempt to rejoin, the second removal and all sorts of skippetty stuff.

Thanks for reminding me why I don’t loiter around the SF. I dip in every few months to see whether the mood has changed. I see it hasn’t.

@kellyjay said
And if you are faithful to God, you will be doing righteous deeds, but it is the righteousness of God that makes us righteous, not our efforts to be righteous.

All your statements about these doctrines start out with a big IF. This means there is also IF NOT Why do you not ever address that possibility they way Paul addressed it.

IF Christians do xyz then abc
If Christians do NOT DO xyz, then pqr

Christians promote part of the true doctrine of Paul.

@moonbus said
Thanks for reminding me why I don’t loiter around the SF. I dip in every few months to see whether the mood has changed. I see it hasn’t.

I don't think you and I have interacted, but I'd like to say I have found your recent contributions here to be interesting and relevant.

@moonbus said
Thanks for reminding me why I don’t loiter around the SF. I dip in every few months to see whether the mood has changed. I see it hasn’t.

dive’s just angry that Roman guy repeatedly compared him to a drunken child.

Apparently that hit a little too close to home.

@moonbus said
Well, that's quite a roll call.

I believe I may have accused you of groping for fish in strange brooks.

Or was it Ghost whom I accused of that?

It seems to ring a bell. 😀

@avalanchethecat said
I don't think you and I have interacted, but I'd like to say I have found your recent contributions here to be interesting and relevant.

Wish we could say the same for you 😉

@pb1022 said
Wish we could say the same for you 😉

"...we..."

Who else is it you think you're speaking for?

@rajk999 said
Do you think I need you to confirm whether or not Christians have permanent possession , of the Holy Spirit? I can read. The bible says no such thing.

I was not really asking you to answer. I was pointing out to other readers that you are not the kind of poster that can be trusted to speak the truth about bible doctrine.

You ignore huge swaths of the Holy Bible because it contradicts your false doctrine.

Your latest revision to your false doctrine has you claiming only what Jesus Christ said to crowds of people counts - what He said to individuals or small groups doesn’t matter.

And you believe the Apostle Paul, except when he contradicts your false doctrine. Then you don’t.

Your false, chest-puffing and self-righteous doctrine is more important to you than the Holy Bible and Jesus Christ Himself.

And you repeatedly break what Jesus said were the two greatest commandments.

@pb1022 said
You ignore huge swaths of the Holy Bible because it contradicts your false doctrine.

Your latest revision to your false doctrine has you claiming only what Jesus Christ said to crowds of people counts - what He said to individuals or small groups doesn’t matter.

And you believe the Apostle Paul, except when he contradicts your false doctrine. Then you don’t.

Your fals ...[text shortened]... esus Christ Himself.

And you repeatedly break what Jesus said were the two greatest commandments.

You get caught lying and you change the topic
Permanent possession.
Not in the bible. Not even implied in the bible.

@rajk999 said
You get caught lying and you change the topic
Permanent possession.
Not in the bible. Not even implied in the bible.

It’s amazing what little you know about the Holy Bible - and what a hateful heart and filthy mouth you have.

<<Will the Holy Spirit ever leave a believer?

Simply put, no, the Holy Spirit will never leave a true believer. This is revealed in many different passages in the New Testament. For example, Romans 8:9 tells us, “…if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.” This verse very clearly states that if someone does not have the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit, then that person is not saved. Therefore, if the Holy Spirit were to leave a believer, that person would have lost the saving relationship with Christ. Yet this is contrary to what the Bible teaches about the eternal security of Christians. Another verse that speaks to the permanence of the Holy Spirit’s indwelling presence in the life of believers is John 14:16. Here Jesus states that the Father will give another Helper “to be with you forever.”

The fact that the Holy Spirit will never leave a believer is also seen in Ephesians 1:13-14 where believers are said to be “sealed” with the Holy Spirit, “who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.” The picture of being sealed with the Spirit is one of ownership and possession. God has promised eternal life to all who believe in Christ, and as a guarantee that He will keep His promise, He has sent the Holy Spirit to indwell the believer until the day of redemption. Similar to making a down payment on a car or a house, God has provided all believers with a down payment on their future relationship with Him by sending the Holy Spirit to indwell them. The fact that all believers are sealed with the Spirit is also seen in 2 Corinthians 1:22 and Ephesians 4:30.

Prior to Christ’s death, resurrection, and ascension into heaven, the Holy Spirit had a “come and go” relationship with people. The Holy Spirit indwelt King Saul, but then departed from him (1 Samuel 16:14). Instead, the Spirit came upon David (1 Samuel 16:13). After his adultery with Bathsheba, David feared that the Holy Spirit would be taken from him (Psalm 51:11). The Holy Spirit filled Bezalel to enable him to produce the items needed for the tabernacle (Exodus 31:2-5), but this is not described as a permanent relationship. All of this changed after Jesus’ ascension into heaven. Beginning on the day of Pentecost, the Holy Spirit began permanently indwelling believers (Acts 2). The permanent indwelling of the Holy Spirit is the fulfillment of God’s promise to always be with us and never forsake us.

While the Holy Spirit will never leave a believer, it is possible for our sin to “quench the Holy Spirit” (1 Thessalonians 5:19) or “grieve the Holy Spirit” (Ephesians 4:30). Sin always has consequences in our relationship with God. While our relationship with God is secure in Christ, unconfessed sin in our lives can hinder our fellowship with God and effectively quench the Holy Spirit’s working in our lives. That is why it is so important to confess our sins because God is “faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness” (1 John 1:9). So, while the Holy Spirit will never leave us, the benefits and joy of His presence can in fact depart from us.>>

https://www.gotquestions.org/Holy-Spirit-leave.html

@pb1022 said
It’s amazing what little you know about the Holy Bible - and what a hateful heart and filthy mouth you have.

<<Will the Holy Spirit ever leave a believer?

Simply put, no, the Holy Spirit will never leave a true believer. This is revealed in many different passages in the New Testament. For example, Romans 8:9 tells us, “…if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he d ...[text shortened]... of His presence can in fact depart from us.>>

https://www.gotquestions.org/Holy-Spirit-leave.html

More gotquestions garbage and still no permanent possession

You and your church are jokers

@ghost-of-a-duke said
It seems to ring a bell. 😀

Your cologne clashes with your tie.

@avalanchethecat said
I don't think you and I have interacted, but I'd like to say I have found your recent contributions here to be interesting and relevant.

Thank you. Ditto.

@divegeester said

Criminalising people (Suzianne)
Character assassinator (Suzianne)

Since you pile me into your need to assassinate more character nigh unto criminalization (with a z, heathen), I have to assert that I stand by my assertions. The evidence is in nearly every forum on this website.

Your witch hunt fails, despite your gaslighting.

And btw, I don't need to take notes. Your behavior in these regards is rife enough in these forums to be obvious to any casual observer. Perhaps this is why most of the people you cite here are writers in the SF. You obviously consider them 'easy' targets. And also, btw, this is by no means an exhaustive list. I don't see you calling out others who can defend themselves better than most of your list.

And you truly wonder why you get so many down thumbs. The sole reason is YOUR bad behavior, your attacks on anyone who dares to disagree with you, not any ridiculous fantasy you harbor that because you are sooooo upright and noble, that any large amount of down thumbs you get must be because they are uniting against you.

Physician, heal thySELF.

@suzianne said
Since you pile me into your need to assassinate more character nigh unto criminalization (with a z, heathen), I have to assert that I stand by my assertions. The evidence is in nearly every forum on this website.

Your witch hunt fails, despite your gaslighting.

And btw, I don't need to take notes. Your behavior in these regards is rife enough in these forums to be ob ...[text shortened]... down thumbs you get must be because they are uniting against you.

Physician, heal thySELF.

Preach it, sister!