Dems block Bill to exclude Illegals in census

Do you not see what is going on? Let us say that it is happening, obviously to garner votes which will put Dems over the top is 2028.
If we were playing Chess and prior to beginning, I put Q and 2 knights in the middle, protecting the Knights that I had just put there, would all of you and Sonhouse be cool with that?
That would be dirty chess. The below is blatantly dirty, and you fellers do not dive a shyte. A sickening lot. YOu may as well read it, to gear up for coming discussions. Why don't dems play fair?


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-effort-to-stop-illegal-immigrants-being-counted-on-census-for-electoral-college-shot-down-in-senate

@averagejoe1 said
Do you not see what is going on? Let us say that it is happening, obviously to garner votes which will put Dems over the top is 2028.
If we were playing Chess and prior to beginning, I put Q and 2 knights in the middle, protecting the Knights that I had just put there, would all of you and Sonhouse be cool with that?
That would be dirty chess. The below is bl ...[text shortened]... -effort-to-stop-illegal-immigrants-being-counted-on-census-for-electoral-college-shot-down-in-senate

Lol "GOP effort" that's funny.

They are a majority.

Hilarious. Did the interviewer ask what hagerty himself is doing to stop the flow of migrants, other than a line item 6 years from now?

@wildgrass said
Lol "GOP effort" that's funny.

They are a majority.

Hilarious. Did the interviewer ask what hagerty himself is doing to stop the flow of migrants, other than a line item 6 years from now?

Please begin on the issue? Not much to ask. Does it seem dirty for the dems to want to put people who are illegalhy here, who are not supposed to be here, who are actually subject to being deported by the next GOP administration, into positions of power?
That is all I am asking everyone, in my crusade to get you to stay on issues. There is one question posed here, and you put lieutenant WGrass out there to throw it off course, to deflect the issue from the Kevs and the Suziannes, and god forbid, the Sonhouses of the world. Can everyone discuss an adult issue? Lets pretend Sue has us all over for a cup of coffee on the porch.

There is actually an interesting debate wrapped up in your fear and racism.

Who should vote in a democratic election?
Just people with jobs?
Slaves?
Women?
Illegals?
Only people with a passport?

When you start peeling it off, you get to some to something more interesting than you’re probably expecting.

@averagejoe1 said
Do you not see what is going on? Let us say that it is happening, obviously to garner votes which will put Dems over the top is 2028.
If we were playing Chess and prior to beginning, I put Q and 2 knights in the middle, protecting the Knights that I had just put there, would all of you and Sonhouse be cool with that?
That would be dirty chess. The below is bl ...[text shortened]... -effort-to-stop-illegal-immigrants-being-counted-on-census-for-electoral-college-shot-down-in-senate

If we were playing Chess and prior to beginning, I put Q and 2 knights in the middle, protecting the Knights that I had just put there, would all of you and Sonhouse be cool with that?


I think most people here would be cool with it. You'd simply blunder your way to another loss like you usually do. I addition, anyone who's been competing here for 14 years with a rating still in the 900's shouldn't be counseling others on which squares to place their pieces. 😏

@averagejoe1 said
Do you not see what is going on? Let us say that it is happening, obviously to garner votes which will put Dems over the top is 2028.
If we were playing Chess and prior to beginning, I put Q and 2 knights in the middle, protecting the Knights that I had just put there, would all of you and Sonhouse be cool with that?
That would be dirty chess. The below is bl ...[text shortened]... -effort-to-stop-illegal-immigrants-being-counted-on-census-for-electoral-college-shot-down-in-senate

The bill was unconstitutional. Try reading the relevant portion of the US Constitution next time. Section 2 of the 14th Amendment requires the counting of the whole number of persons in each State (except for Indians not taxed).

@shavixmir said
There is actually an interesting debate wrapped up in your fear and racism.

Who should vote in a democratic election?
Just people with jobs?
Slaves?
Women?
Illegals?
Only people with a passport?

When you start peeling it off, you get to some to something more interesting than you’re probably expecting.

So silly, really glib, right up there with SuziannePerson posts.
There is but one element….citizens of their respective countries vote. Even Netherlands, if you can believe that. I think even convicts can vote if they are citizens.
You asked for ‘interesting’ but I am simply giving you a fact, interesting or not.
Oh my goodness, I almost let you get away with changing the subject again. Can you respond to the original question in the first post. Thank you in advance.

@mchill said
If we were playing Chess and prior to beginning, I put Q and 2 knights in the middle, protecting the Knights that I had just put there, would all of you and Sonhouse be cool with that?


I think most people here would be cool with it. You'd simply blunder your way to another loss like you usually do. I addition, anyone who's been competing here for 14 years with a rating still in the 900's shouldn't be counseling others on which squares to place their pieces. 😏

Darn, we’ve lost McHill too. Y’all keep up dodging my kick-ass thread and no one will be left. Just yesterday the monitors wrote me a note and said they are amazed how many debates I win. Oh golly, I’m just kidding, I know that y’all take everything seriously… They really did not write me. But I do win. So far, I am batting 1000 on this thread. Anybody left? Tell us why illegal non- citizens, or any non-citizens, should be included in a census of citizens.

@no1marauder said
The bill was unconstitutional. Try reading the relevant portion of the US Constitution next time. Section 2 of the 14th Amendment requires the counting of the whole number of persons in each State (except for Indians not taxed).

But illegal immigrants are presenting a warped representation of who our citizens are, the people who vote.
Are you , Marauder, suggesting that these immigrants who are not citizens vote on our laws and on who will lead our country???
Libs cannot answer yes or no questions. You won’t.

@averagejoe1 said
Darn, we’ve lost McHill too. Y’all keep up dodging my kick-ass thread and no one will be left. Just yesterday the monitors wrote me a note and said they are amazed how many debates I win. Oh golly, I’m just kidding, I know that y’all take everything seriously… They really did not write me. But I do win. So far, I am batting 1000 on this thread. Anybody left? Tell us why illegal non- citizens, or any non-citizens, should be included in a census of citizens.

Because the Constitution says so?

@averagejoe1 said
But illegal immigrants are presenting a warped representation of who our citizens are, the people who vote.
Are you , Marauder, suggesting that these immigrants who are not citizens vote on our laws and on who will lead our country???
Libs cannot answer yes or no questions. You won’t.

Are you saying that simply filling out a census enfranchises you?
That’s very enlightened of you guys, we just used ours to figure what areas needed what infrastructure and services and, you know how many people were in the country.
If you cross tabulated this census information with voting records and such you might find out how many non citizens are in your country Joe
I don’t get the beef

@no1marauder said
Because the Constitution says so?

People who illegally enter our country....they are entitled to vote? Illegals? You are thus sayiing that a person who qualifies as someone illegally here, being subject to being kicked the hell back, and AT THE SAME TIME have the right to go down to the
courthouse and vote for our president??!??!?!??!Can you show us that, and meanwhile, what does this mean?

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-constitutional-rights-do-undocumented-immigrants-have#:~:text=“Yes%2C%20without%20question%2C”,jurisdiction%20in%20the%20United%20States.”

































"It wasn’t until 1926 that all states passed laws barring noncitizens from voting. Congress passed a law 70 years later prohibiting illegal immigrants from voting “the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner

How it works in practice: If you are not a U.S. citizen, voting in a federal election could land you in prison for up to three years or lead to deportation. States can impose their own, sometimes harsher, penalties for breaking the law.

(All of this is true, I am not too keen on doing your remedial research for you. But it is a (liberal.) PBS piece.,,,see here

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-constitutional-rights-do-undocumented-immigrants-have#:~:text=“Yes%2C%20without%20question%2C”,jurisdiction%20in%20the%20United%20States.”

@averagejoe1 said
Do you not see what is going on? Let us say that it is happening, obviously to garner votes which will put Dems over the top is 2028.
If we were playing Chess and prior to beginning, I put Q and 2 knights in the middle, protecting the Knights that I had just put there, would all of you and Sonhouse be cool with that?
That would be dirty chess. The below is bl ...[text shortened]... -effort-to-stop-illegal-immigrants-being-counted-on-census-for-electoral-college-shot-down-in-senate

PS: To make it easier, check out this paragraph:

It wasn’t until 1926 that all states passed laws barring noncitizens from voting. Congress passed a law 70 years later prohibiting illegal immigrants from voting “for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner.”

How it works in practice: If you are not a U.S. citizen, voting in a federal election could land you in prison for up to three years or lead to deportation. States can impose their own, sometimes harsher, penalties for breaking the law.

And in my speed read, I did not see them mention illegal ones. Who are they alkiing about.

@averagejoe1 said
People who illegally enter our country....they are entitled to vote? Illegals? You are thus sayiing that a person who qualifies as someone illegally here, being subject to being kicked the hell back, and AT THE SAME TIME have the right to go down to the
courthouse and vote for our president??!??!?!??!Can you show us that, and meanwhile, what does this mean?

https:/ ...[text shortened]... immigrants-have#:~:text=“Yes%2C%20without%20question%2C”,jurisdiction%20in%20the%20United%20States.”

No, you idiot, you're changing the subject which was supposed to be about who is counted in the Census.

Lots of people are counted in the Census who are ineligible to vote.

@kevcvs57 said
Are you saying that simply filling out a census enfranchises you?
That’s very enlightened of you guys, we just used ours to figure what areas needed what infrastructure and services and, you know how many people were in the country.
If you cross tabulated this census information with voting records and such you might find out how many non citizens are in your country Joe
I don’t get the beef

I didn't mention filling out a census...Y'all have t start staying with the issue