@wildgrass saidI'm sure people wrongfully imprisoned would get a great deal of comfort, or at least some small relief, from letters of support. The list of these people grows and they always express gratitude when possible.
What's the solution? Write dear stan letters to Derek?
Good for you JJ, the man is locked up for doing his job while some junkie trash lifetime criminal OD get's showered in liberal tears and adulation. People all over the world are behind officer Chauvin, and the truth.
But wildgrass advises against it, if you can't write to them all you may as well write to someone else altogether. Or write a form letter and bulk send them for that personal touch.
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@wajoma saidThat depends. Is it Dear stan, hearts and prayers you're so brave.
I'm sure people wrongfully imprisoned would get a great deal of comfort, or at least some small relief, from letters of support. The list of these people grows and they always express gratitude when possible.
Good for you JJ, the man is locked up for doing his job while some junkie trash lifetime criminal OD get's showered in liberal tears and adulation. People all over ...[text shortened]... write to someone else altogether. Or write a form letter and bulk send them for that personal touch.
Or...
Dear stan, I am working with elected officials to change the law so police officers like you won't be wrongfully imprisoned.
It seemed like in the dozen threads on the subject we might have finally found an issue (criminal justice reform) that libs and cons could agree on. The types of changes to laws once proposed by libs could be used to free this convict.
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@wajoma saidI don't believe the penalty for Resisting Arrest in Minnesota is death.
Trying to delve into vivify's logic.
Floyd was resisting arrest when he was resisting arrest, but when police employ a technique from the training manual to stop people resisting arrest Floyd was no longer resisting arrest. Conclusion: Police are trained on how to stop people that are resisting arrest from resisting arrest, and when they use that technique people can no ...[text shortened]... isting arrest when he was prevented from resisting arrest.
Check out the big brain on vivify 8^/
Like sooooooooooooooooo many other threads, we have a couple of entirely biased posters (one a well-known virulent racist) relying on little more than newspaper articles attacking the verdict given by a jury which saw ALL the evidence including every single bit they are relying on. This is ridiculous as usual.
He was aggressively defended by counsel at trial and appealed the verdict as far as law allowed him including requesting review by the SCOTUS on the same argument JJ made in the OP. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/11/20/supreme-court-derek-chauvin-george-floyd/71650699007/
There was no "miscarriage of justice" and Chauvin isn't a "wrongfully convicted man". He's a criminal who just happened to be carrying a badge.
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@wajoma saidHow much "gratitude" should murderers get?
I'm sure people wrongfully imprisoned would get a great deal of comfort, or at least some small relief, from letters of support. The list of these people grows and they always express gratitude when possible.
Good for you JJ, the man is locked up for doing his job while some junkie trash lifetime criminal OD get's showered in liberal tears and adulation. People all over ...[text shortened]... write to someone else altogether. Or write a form letter and bulk send them for that personal touch.
@no1marauder saidYou need to calm down, you're firing from the hip. The gratitude is for concerned citizens taking the time to write letters of support.
How much "gratitude" should murderers get?
At least you concede the 'resisting arrest' aspect, some can't even bring themselves to admit that, Floyd was an angel doing everything he could to assist the officers in their enquiries.
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@wajoma saidHow about this "truth":
I'm sure people wrongfully imprisoned would get a great deal of comfort, or at least some small relief, from letters of support. The list of these people grows and they always express gratitude when possible.
Good for you JJ, the man is locked up for doing his job while some junkie trash lifetime criminal OD get's showered in liberal tears and adulation. People all over ...[text shortened]... write to someone else altogether. Or write a form letter and bulk send them for that personal touch.
"In a separate federal indictment, Chauvin also pleaded guilty to willfully depriving a 14-year-old Minneapolis resident of his constitutional right to be free from the use of unreasonable force by a police officer. The charges stem from an episode in September 2017 and allege that Chauvin, without legal justification, held the teenager by the throat, struck him multiple times in the head with a flashlight and held his knee on the boy's neck and the upper back while he was handcuffed and in a prone position."
https://abcnews.go.com/US/derek-chauvin-pleads-guilty-federal-charges-violating-george/story?id=81766309
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@no1marauder saidSeparate case, you want me to drag up all junkie trash ODed flunky Floyds past record?
How about this "truth":
"In a separate federal indictment, Chauvin also pleaded guilty to willfully depriving a 14-year-old Minneapolis resident of his constitutional right to be free from the use of unreasonable force by a police officer. The charges stem from an episode in September 2017 and allege that Chauvin, without legal justification, held the teenager by the t ...[text shortened]... s://abcnews.go.com/US/derek-chauvin-pleads-guilty-federal-charges-violating-george/story?id=81766309
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@wajoma saidI conceded nothing. I assumed, for the sake of argument, that Floyd did resist arrest in order to counter your ludicrous implied claim that that would justify his murder.
You need to calm down, you're firing from the hip. The gratitude is for concerned citizens taking the time to write letters of support.
At least you concede the 'resisting arrest' aspect, some can't even bring themselves to admit that, Floyd was an angel doing everything he could to assist the officers in their enquiries.
@wajoma saidYou've been singing Chauvin's praises as if he was a saint but now you don't want to discuss another crime he pled guilty to also arising from his conduct as a corrupt police officer?
Separate case, you want me to drag up all junkie trash ODed flunky Floyds past record?
No, I don't care about a murder victim's past record.
@no1marauder saidOK then in your not so humble opinion did Banana boy resist arrest or not?
I conceded nothing. I assumed, for the sake of argument, that Floyd did resist arrest in order to counter your ludicrous implied claim that that would justify his murder.
Did they have to tell him 8 times to show his hands, did they have to ask him out of the vehicle 8 times? What do you consider a reasonable number of requests?
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@wajoma saidHere's what Chauvin admitted in his signed Plea Agreement to the Federal charges:
You need to calm down, you're firing from the hip. The gratitude is for concerned citizens taking the time to write letters of support.
At least you concede the 'resisting arrest' aspect, some can't even bring themselves to admit that, Floyd was an angel doing everything he could to assist the officers in their enquiries.
"The defendant admits that no later than the time the officers decided not to apply the hobble to Mr. Floyd, the defendant's continued use of force became objectively unreasonable and excessive based on a totality of the circumstances. After that point, the defendant continued his unreasonable restraint of Mr. Floyd until after the paramedics arrived.
The defendant admits that in using this unreasonable and excessive force, he acted
willfully and in callous and wanton disregard ofthe consequences to Mr. Floyd's life. The defendant knew that what he was doing was wrong, in part, because it was contrary to his training as an MPD officer. The defendant chose to continue his use of force even though he knew from MPD policy and training that once Mr. Floyd was compliant, the defendant should have gotten off of him and moved him into a side recovery or seated position."
https://www.justice.gov/media/1181306/dl?inline Page 4