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@kevcvs57 saidNo, can’t be freedom within a country run by a dictator.
Hahaha said the MAGA moron who thinks a Trump dictatorship = freedom
Is that you, Sunhouse? Can you tell us how we will recognize when Trump all of a sudden becomes a dictator so we can get prepared or can you tell us now in advance what to be looking for. Please give us an adult reasonable answer to this, as I’m finding it very curious, no silly stuff like that which we get from Suzanne all the time.
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@vivify saidNo, billionaires are much cooler than all that. They will easily shuffle their assets around within their family and they’ll be a lot of multimillionaires, but maybe not one billionaire. Surely you don’t think they are so stupid as to let Biden hound them for more money? Sure they may get a few billionaires like Bezos, who, after he has been taxed at 25%, will be giving the government just enough money to run the government for 13 minutes.
So they'd stop trying to make money if they can only keep $100,000,000 out every billion? Is that what you're saying?
You'd all be living in huts and riding horses. They're easy to make.
"Living in huts"? Why? Because 0.03% of the total population decided not to "bother" with making more money?
I do suggest that, instead of complaining about about all these people, that when Trump becomes president, you can be one of those people. If you can’t lick them, join them. I am all about that for you and for me.
@zahlanzi saidFollow me here little feller. When you speak of road building, hospitals, bridges, fire trucks, police etc, everyone including the rich, who indeed use services, ARE PAYING THEM THRU TAXES.
i am pretty sure you're lying and only because i am unsure if you're just too dim to understand what he is talking about
"To me, anyone who takes something that was produced by another person is a socialist."
the workers literally produce everything in a factory and the owner literally takes (or pays less than that work is valued) what someone else produces. That's tru ...[text shortened]... ed.
"If it is not socialism, what is it. "
I am not afraid of socialism like you weaklings are.
So everything you state above regarding same is totally irrelevant. What a waste of typing. Yes, he leans on services that you mention, which he PAYS FOR THRU TAXES. THE BILLIONAIRE DOES NOT HAVE TO PROVIDE HIS OWN SECURITY AT HIS OWN FIRES OR HIS OWN ROADS. .’. You waste our time.
Next, I have no idea about you’re saying that we depend on other people in our society to support us ‘because that’s the reason we have a society in the first place” That is a bunch of crap. So you are obviously not self reliant. Well, do us all a favor, and don’t drag us down with you as a dependent.
Yes, I do ask you, that if people are dependents and get the stuff of other people, such as our money for tuition and to pay for losers who take welfare checks (some on this forum), what do you call that if it is not socialism?
You are not afraid of socialism. Interesting. Interesting indeed.
Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Would you go so far as to knock on my front door to get my money from me? A fair question, but you will not answer it.
@djj said1) Your own link says that the railroads were financed by the government as well as a private company, which you conveniently left out
Those 'guys' only assisted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_transcontinental_railroad#:~:text=The%20rail%20line%20was%20built,by%20company%2Dissued%20mortgage%20bonds.
The rail line was built by three private companies over public lands provided by extensive U.S. land grants.
Britain tried taxing people at 90%. They all left and went overseas. What a stupid idea.
2) The whole idea for the transcontinental railroad started because of the federal government, not business
3) There were no "billionaires" back then. So even if a private company did help they were not billionaires and therefore wouldn't have been affected by a 90% tax rate on billionaires
Your point is moot.
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@AverageJoe1
So for you if you are a billionaire and pay zero tax that is fine with you because you are a capitalist?
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@AverageJoe1
You obviously think everyone ELSE heard something wrong when he said I will be a dictator for one day, He means what he says and there will be not much in the way of policy ONLY 'retribution' and killing all the many charges against him and pardoning himself. Like putting twice as many children in cages because he thinks that will deter the border crossing. Didn't work the first time but he has poor reasoning ability and don't care, going for the retribution deal. And you figure there would be nothing wrong with that tactic.
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@sonhouse saidThey should pay taxes that they owe. We agree. There are all encompassing, tax laws and regulation, which is properly taking advantage of which anyone would do, including you, …it is possible to legally avoid a lot of taxes. …..If they are smarter than us, and can do that, do you want us to make them dumber so that they cannot do it. I never know what you people are looking for. It is all legal. I think you are asking me if I think that they should not be relieved of a tax burden? We make it seem so simple, that we can easily tweak what the rich people pay, but Tax laws are generally across the board. Do you want to hit up the rich people but not the average American. So you want to punish the rich people.
@AverageJoe1
So for you if you are a billionaire and pay zero tax that is fine with you because you are a capitalist?
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@sonhouse saidWell, yes. Anyone on the forum will not likely pay any more tax than they are required to pay so I don’t get your point.
@AverageJoe1
So for you if you are a billionaire and pay zero tax that is fine with you because you are a capitalist?
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@zahlanzi saidthere wouldnt be any computers, cell phones, internet ect either
nobody wants a communist society dumbass
if you work harder than me in a socialist society, you get more money, a better job, your business would be more successful and all the things in a capitalist society. you can even buy yachts (reasonable, non 200 million worth kind yachts)
all that changes is there wouldn't be billionaires hoarding more money that could be spen ...[text shortened]... s or property nationalizations that you morons like to wave like a scary puppet made by a 5 year old
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@sonhouse saidDo you think for one second that I would want the taxes that the govt collects from a billionaire to go towards paying off my daughter’s college tuition loan ?????
@AverageJoe1
So for you if you are a billionaire and pay zero tax that is fine with you because you are a capitalist?
Say it ain’t so, Sonhouse. I thought better of you than that. We are pickers. I’ll Fly Away on Mando, a brotherhood. I could not jam with a person who uses money of other people to pay their debts.
Would you use the money of the billionaire who created Apple and Amazon? They changed the world . You’d punish them? Use them? Sonhouse?
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@soothfast saidHow so? We need new ideas.
@AveJoe
I'm increasingly less bemused by your limitless stupidity and abject submission to fear, and more perplexed by anyone's willingness to waste time with you.
You are among the most unfree souls that I know. A prisoner to ossified ignorance.
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@soothfast saidI’ll bite. I assume you want a communist society. A question no one here will answer. I naturally like to work hard, walk fast, busy, busy, I like to produce, self satisfaction,etc.
Heh. Try me.
If you and I are in the same communist community, and I just work harder and produce more, how do you describe our lot at the end of the day?