11 Apr '24 12:52>
@spruce112358
Basically none of what you are posting about the Arab-Israeli conflict is unbiased or accurate.
Basically none of what you are posting about the Arab-Israeli conflict is unbiased or accurate.
@spruce112358 saidYou are uninformed about Palestinians. Have you actually read the Hamas Charter of 2017? Have a read. I will quote from that later, but basically. It is no different from the 1988 as it states the desire of Palestinians to remove ALL JEWISH GOVERNMENT from Palestine. They want no Jews in their government.
Palestinian Arabs want justice, not war.
I told you - the Hamas Charter has never been put to a referendum so it simply a plank of a political party. It means nothing. AND it has been changed since. So you've got nothing left to point at.
Palestinian Arabs have actually asked for nothing more than to vote for their government in the land where they live.
100% reasonable. Every country and every person on the planet should support them in this.
@rajk999 saidNow you are just making my argument. Israel is the result of colonial conquest and occupation. We agree. Except we all know by now from numerous examples that the colonial period was bad and full of oppression and unfairness to indigenous peoples. We shouldn't have done any of that.
Nonsense. It was a British Overseas Territory. The State OWNS IT. Not the Arabs. People own land which they purchased or which they inherited from others, or which by virtue of their history have been living there for generations. The rest of the land in this case over 70% was State land owned by the British Empire. Thats how it works.
You are mistaken if you really ...[text shortened]... ound them. They cannot settle with any nation and they make themselves a nuisance wherever they go.
@spruce112358 saidWell Israel is here to stay. There is no force on this planet that can move them. The day Palestinians accept this reality, only then there will be peace. Until then it is more death for whoever tries to move them. They do not even accept the fact that they own Arab buddies do not want them. They are a lost people, fighting for the impossible.
Now you are just making my argument. Israel is the result of colonial conquest and occupation. We agree. Except we all know by now from numerous examples that the colonial period was bad and full of oppression and unfairness to indigenous peoples. We shouldn't have done any of that.
Then you went on to say "These indigenous FOOLS are SAVAGES full of HATE and they should all GO AWAY!"
I'll just leave it there, @rajk999. You need help, buddy.
@spruce112358 saidThe Arab population, indigenous to the Arabian peninsula, are themselves very like a colonial population. They are an ethno-religious extension of Arabia who took the land by violence during the rise of the Arab Empire in the early medieval period after the indigenous Jews had been ethnically cleansed from the region.
Agreed, it is not that. It's a former British mandate full of Russian and Polish settlers. The ethnic Arab population was pushed out.
@spruce112358 saidArabs are not indigenous to Palestine or Judea. Jews and Greco-Philistines are.
Now you are just making my argument. Israel is the result of colonial conquest and occupation. We agree. Except we all know by now from numerous examples that the colonial period was bad and full of oppression and unfairness to indigenous peoples. We shouldn't have done any of that.
Then you went on to say "These indigenous FOOLS are SAVAGES full of HATE and they should all GO AWAY!"
I'll just leave it there, @rajk999. You need help, buddy.