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    No, it is not.

    If I or anyone else had cheated on their state or federal taxes, falsified business records, incited an armed mob to storm the Capital building, where they bashed in windows, kicked in doors, killed and injured police officers. If I had stolen government documents, then refuse to give them back despite multiple requests to do so. If I or anyone else had paid off pornstars and playmates to keep them quiet in order to suppress negative press in order to win an election. I or anyone else would have been sitting in a prison cell for at least the last 2 years - and would be staying there for a very long time.

    This man has been treated like royalty by the criminal justice system and still he snivels and whines about being victimized. For the 1st time in decades, he's in a place where he doesn't get to make all the rules and has to answer to someone besides himself. Your delay tactics have run their course, and its finally time to face a jury of your peers. So, stop crying like a little child with a broken toy and deal with it! ๐Ÿ˜
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    @mchill

    In order to understand Trump's oft-repeated charge that he's the victim (of a "witch-hunt" ), it helps to know something about who his mentor was.

    His mentor was Roy Cohn.

    Now, for those who are too young for that name to resonate, he was Senator Joe McCarthy's 'rotweiller', right-hand man, and legal counsel. Yes, that Senator McCarthy -- the one who instigated a 'witch-hunt' in the the 1950s. Everything Trump does in and around courtrooms , he learned from Roy Cohn: delay, prevaricate, intimidate witnesses and judges, accuse your accuser of what you did (e.g. rig an election), turn the charges upside-down and cry 'I'm the victim here! not my accuser', avoid the facts, deny responsibility, blame someone else, decry the procedure, decry the evidence, deflect, deny-deny-deny, distort the legal system against itself, automatically appeal any decision you don't like, counter-sue your accusers for quadruple the sum because they can't afford the legal fees to defend themselves against spurious charges, but under no circumstances address the facts or ever admit defeat (even when the sentence is unequivocally "you did it and you're guilty as Cain" ). All these tactics are straight out of Roy Cohn's playbook, and the whole 'witch-hunt' narrative dates to Sen. McCarthy himself.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cohn
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    @mchill said
    No, it is not.

    If I or anyone else had cheated on their state or federal taxes, falsified business records, incited an armed mob to storm the Capital building, where they bashed in windows, kicked in doors, killed and injured police officers. If I had stolen government documents, then refuse to give them back despite multiple requests to do so. If I or anyone else had paid ...[text shortened]... ce a jury of your peers. So, stop crying like a little child with a broken toy and deal with it! ๐Ÿ˜
    Again with the killed police officers nonsense.
    NO police officer was killed on Jan 6.
    The rest is just as dishonest but I'm not going to bother.
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    @cliff-mashburn said
    Again with the killed police officers nonsense.
    NO police officer was killed on Jan 6.
    The rest is just as dishonest but I'm not going to bother.
    Officer Sicknick died the following day of stress-related stroke sustained during the 6th January riot. But for the riot, he would be alive today.
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    @cliff-mashburn said
    Again with the killed police officers nonsense.
    NO police officer was killed on Jan 6.
    The rest is just as dishonest but I'm not going to bother.
    Who's dishonest? Trumps own lawyer already went to prison for this and it's not disputed that trump ordered him to do it.
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    So the fact some died the next day or soon after means nothing. Got it. And it also must mean nothing one of the insurrectionists was killed that day by capitol cops, how DARE they try to protect congressmen, is that your stance?
    So for you an insurrection at the behest of Trump is just fine. But you can't have it both ways if say Obama had used the same tactic, rile up folks to attack the capitol building so the electoral count could not take place and fake electors could have decided that election, would THAT have been ok or is it only ok for repubs to pull that shyte?
    I can just imagine your stance if the cops had machine gunned a thousand or so of those insurrectionists, how terrible that would have been, right?
    Like it WOULD have happened if that had taken place in Moscow?
    Those insurrectionists are fukking LUCKY they did it here in the US and not in say Iran or Turkey or Russia or China.
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    @mchill said
    No, it is not.

    If I or anyone else had cheated on their state or federal taxes, falsified business records, incited an armed mob to storm the Capital building, where they bashed in windows, kicked in doors, killed and injured police officers. If I had stolen government documents, then refuse to give them back despite multiple requests to do so. If I or anyone else had paid ...[text shortened]... ce a jury of your peers. So, stop crying like a little child with a broken toy and deal with it! ๐Ÿ˜
    I try to agree with all that you lemmings preach, but certainly you must understand that your never having once made any negative statement about anything having to do with Joe Biden makes it very difficult.
    so, tell us some things that Joe Biden has been corrupt about and make yourself more believable. How about answering the most simple question, that the Biden family has never told us what they were paid all the money for. Why not? How much easier can a question be. I try to make all my questions easy so that liberals will understand them.
    But they will not answer them.
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    Tell me why it is ok for the Trump family to have been given two BILLION dollars by the Saudi's for favors rendered and if Biden makes some money that would be a THOUSAND times less even if true, I assume that makes the two equal.
    First off, show any court renderings of money given to Biden, show us bank records, anything to support your case. The two BILLION is public record and clearly for years of favors to the Saudi's like ignoring the death of our own journalist dismembered by that prince and his henchmen.

    Biden did NOT ignore that and brought it up to that POS prince. Your god king never said a fukking WORD condemning him for that murder.
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    @averagejoe1 said
    I try to agree with all that you lemmings preach, but certainly you must understand that your never having once made any negative statement about anything having to do with Joe Biden makes it very difficult.
    so, tell us some things that Joe Biden has been corrupt about and make yourself more believable. How about answering the most simple question, that the Biden fami ...[text shortened]... to make all my questions easy so that liberals will understand them.
    But they will not answer them.
    Oh, tell us again about Hunter's laptop and Hillary's emails. Jared Kushner receiving 2 billion dollars from the Saudis for unknown 'services rendered' knocks Hunter's puny malfeasances into a cocked hat.
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    @averagejoe1 said
    so, tell us some things that Joe Biden has been corrupt about and make yourself more believable.
    Well, Joe Biden is INCREDIBLY honest, but like AverageJoe, he sometimes makes mistakes. Take this example from 1987:

    "In his closing remarks at a Democratic primary debate, [Biden] lifted passages from one of Kinnock’s most moving speeches without attribution. The resulting plagiarism 'scandal' sank Biden’s campaign."

    So what happened? Well, Biden did indeed use phrases from the Neil Kinnock speech at various times, but had always been careful to give attribution.

    "In September 1987, Maureen Dowd of the New York Times wrote that American presidential campaign strategists admired the way [a speech] portrayed [Neil] Kinnock 'as a man of character', noting: “Senator Joseph R Biden Jr of Delaware, a Democratic hopeful, was particularly taken with it.”

    "Biden duly sprinkled phrases from the speech into his own remarks on the campaign trail but was always careful to credit Kinnock.

    "However, in a debate with Michael Dukakis, Jesse Jackson, Al Gore and others at the Iowa State Fair, he rushed through the Kinnock passage in his closing statement and forgot to name its source.

    "Jeff Wilser’s biography, The Book of Joe, recounts: “Nailed it, he thought. The crowd was silent, enthralled, and even in tears. Biden left the stage feeling pretty good about things.”

    “Only one problem. An aide leaned in and said, ‘Pssst, you forgot to credit Kinnock.’

    Shyt. In his hurry, he had failed to squeeze in the usual accreditation. Prior to this, he had never claimed it as his own, and it had never been a problem.”

    That's it. That is the worst thing Joe Biden has ever done in his life.
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    Tell me why it is ok for the Trump family to have been given two BILLION dollars by the Saudi's for favors rendered and if Biden makes some money that would be a THOUSAND times less even if true, I assume that makes the two equal.
    First off, show any court renderings of money given to Biden, show us bank records, anything to support your case. The two BILLION ...[text shortened]... ht it up to that POS prince. Your god king never said a fukking WORD condemning him for that murder.
    Why are you writing that old saw to me? You should do a thread on it, it is a subject with which I am not familiar and certainly not germane to this. It is not my question. Write it to someone else, and answer my question?
    This was the question. You never see my questions, mainly your approval of the man swimming with the girls. I asked if you would beOK if a man competed against your daughter?? Remember that one?
    Anyway you are not goint to fall into that AvJoe trap, so please just answer this one. This is it:

    try to agree with all that you lemmings preach, but certainly you must understand that your never having once made any negative statement about anything having to do with Joe Biden makes it very difficult.
    so, tell us some things that Joe Biden has been corrupt about and make yourself more believable. How about answering the most simple question, that the Biden family has never told us what they were paid all the money for. Why not? How much easier can a question be. I try to make all my questions easy so that liberals will understand them.
    But they will not answer them.
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    @moonbus said
    Oh, tell us again about Hunter's laptop and Hillary's emails. Jared Kushner receiving 2 billion dollars from the Saudis for unknown 'services rendered' knocks Hunter's puny malfeasances into a cocked hat.
    Hahahaha. Is that you Sonhouse?? Haha. This money of Biden's is such a hot potato that you cannot answer it. Chalk up another win for Avjoe. And watch Sonhouse squirm his way to nowhere!!! ๐Ÿ˜†
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    @averagejoe1 said
    tell us some things that Joe Biden has been corrupt about and make yourself more believable.
    I just... did that. Did you not read? Joe Biden once failed to attribute a quote.

    REALLY BAD! BAD JOE!

    He ended his run for President, it was so bad. Of course, that was a different time.

    We used to hold politicians to some sort of ethical standard.
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    @spruce112358 said
    Well, Joe Biden is INCREDIBLY honest, but like AverageJoe, he sometimes makes mistakes. Take this example from 1987:

    "In his closing remarks at a Democratic primary debate, [Biden] lifted passages from one of Kinnock’s most moving speeches without attribution. The resulting plagiarism 'scandal' sank Biden’s campaign."

    So what happened? Well, Biden did indeed use ph ...[text shortened]... ad never been a problem.”

    That's it. That is the worst thing Joe Biden has ever done in his life.
    That was not the worst thing he has done in his life , you shluld google all his lying, I thought you would know not to 'go there'. All the family coal mining is a lie, and how about raised in a below average financial household, with puertoricans, blacks, Jews, (Phjew) but saying a few days ago how they would not let his family join the Club. Hmmmmmmmm. Join a Club?
    Hell this is a waste of time. I ain't gonna go into his college and law school lies, you should google them. "I was this, I was that',,, all lies.
    I cannot believe you just said that his convoluted speech problems, where he could not seem to craft a speech of his own words, is the worst thing he has ever done in his life.
    What are your readers sposed to take with that? Unbelievable? Do you know this dictator just forbid drilling on 13Million acres in Alaska? Pandering to the creepy climate maniacs. Costing us all big time.
    I know,,,,,you hate Trump. That is about it.
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