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The Near Genius

Fort Gordon

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Don't you also have the fantasy of being a strong chess player?

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Duckfinder General

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
You realy are the Village Idiot aren't you?
You mean one of the Village People ? We need to bring them up-to-date for the interweb age. The Troll, the Phisherman, the Groomer and the Engine Cheat. We might have the first 4-in-1 right here.

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In attack

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Originally posted by thaughbaer
You mean one of the Village People ? We need to bring them up-to-date for the interweb age. The Troll, the Phisherman, the Groomer and the Engine Cheat. We might have the first 4-in-1 right here.
A troll, a phisherman, a groomer, and an engine cheat walk into a bar. The barman serves him a drink.

Or...

A troll, a phisherman, a groomer, and an engine cheat walk into a bar. The barman says "is this some kind of joke?!"

e4

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The Village People. I like it.

I can just imagine Silicon Ron singing the 'YMCA' to his favourite engine.
Though in this case 'YMCA' stands for "Your My Chess Assistant."

๐Ÿ™‚

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I understand that this 2200 OTB rated player had an extremely high matchup rate and makes the possiblity of cheating with a computer very suspicious. I was just trying to clarify the issue.

The point I was getting to was that this player was already near or at master strength and this may have been the reason the second choice of the computer was played ...[text shortened]... ccused needs to have the opportunity to face his accusers and present his defense if he has one.
There is no defense. Humans do NOT match up with engines this close except maybe in short, very tactical lopsided victories.

The Near Genius

Fort Gordon

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Originally posted by tomtom232
There is no defense. Humans do NOT match up with engines this close except maybe in short, very tactical lopsided victories.
That may be so. However, I still think it deserves a little more investigation and since he won money by cheating, he should be asked to return the money and see how he responds. If he refuses to admit guilt and return the money, then further legal action taken, if needed, to get a real legal verdict instead of a vigilante verdict and nothing more.

The drunk knight

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Why analyse cheats?

They ruin the game, so let the game ruin them, and not us

p.s. this statement was brought to you by vodka and coke

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Originally posted by 64squaresofpain
p.s. this statement was brought to you by vodka and coke
Ah, the Tal gambit๐Ÿ™‚

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Originally posted by ChessPraxis
Is 100 Percent a lot of percents?
Maybe... lol ๐Ÿ™‚

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Originally posted by paulbuchmanfromfics
I haven't checked any books or databases but c5 looks playable. It's probably an attempt to steer away from the books.

4. ...a5 is also a move. In fact, it was recommended in a repertoire book that I own, in a similar position (substitute Nf3 for g3). The open a file can come in useful.

Just because a move isn't popular doesn't mean ition where both sides had to think (and play chess), rather than dash out theory (memory).
The original line 1.d4, Nf6 2.c4, e6 3.g3, Bb4+4.Bd2, c5 is a book line, at least according to Fritz 13. 4...c5 is the 4th candidate move, and it favors White a bit:

4...Qe7 94 games; 54.3%; 2575 Average player rating
4...Be7 176 games; 56.5%; 2597
4...a5 62 games; 60.5%; 2576
4...c5 50 games; 62.0%; 2588
4...Bxd2+ 65 games; 63.1%; 2599

The Near Genius

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Originally posted by EStoddard
The original line 1.d4, Nf6 2.c4, e6 3.g3, Bb4+4.Bd2, c5 is a book line, at least according to Fritz 13. 4...c5 is the 4th candidate move, and it favors White a bit:

4...Qe7 94 games; 54.3%; 2575 Average player rating
4...Be7 176 games; 56.5%; 2597
4...a5 62 games; 60.5%; 2576
4...c5 50 games; 62.0%; 2588
4...Bxd2+ 65 games; 63.1%; 2599
4...Bxd2+ 65 games; 63.1%; 2599
I think I like this line best for black in that position.
But I am only a patzer club player.
However, I don't think I would ever try to pin an imaginary knight by 3...Bb4+.

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Speaking on ignorant claims about "bad" 4...c5 - here is today`s game from Tata Steel: