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  1. Standard member MCA
    TokerSmurf
    18 Jul '05 10:09 / 1 edit
    Ok I know there is currently a post running for wins in under 20 moves but the water gets bit murky when the win was through resignation or timeout. I dont think these should count unless the mate can be forced in under 20. (I know there may be some who disagree with this but should it really count just cause my opponent went on holiday for a fortnight on move three and I timed him out??)

    How about we start one which deals only with MATEs in under 20 & those games where the mate could at least be forced within 20 moves?

    Here's my best Game 766306 move ten.

    [edit: bit of line spacing looks better lol]
  2. 18 Jul '05 13:05 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by MCA
    Ok I know there is currently a post running for wins in under 20 moves but the water gets bit murky when the win was through resignation or timeout. I dont think these should count unless the mate can be forced in under 20. (I know there may be ...[text shortened]... 06[/gid] move ten.

    [edit: bit of line spacing looks better lol]
    It doesn't look forced after 9...Nh6
  3. Standard member Freddie2008
    9 Edits
    18 Jul '05 14:22
    one of my favourite quick wins:

    Game 1096517

  4. Standard member MCA
    TokerSmurf
    18 Jul '05 14:57
    Originally posted by Regicidal
    It doesn't look forced after 9...Nh6
    I didnt say it was - all im saying is that the game must end by move 20 and we should only count timeouts or resignations IF there is a forced mate available within the 20 move limit.
  5. 18 Jul '05 16:21
  6. Standard member DOlivier2004
    A Lost Bobby
    18 Jul '05 17:27
    Originally posted by Freddie2004
    one of my favourite quick wins:

    Game 1096517

    Sorry to do this freddie:

    Game 795309
    Game 795312

    OK, maybe I'm not...
  7. Standard member DOlivier2004
    A Lost Bobby
    18 Jul '05 17:31
    Another one

    Game 871325
  8. Standard member Freddie2008
    9 Edits
    18 Jul '05 20:54
    Originally posted by DOlivier2004
    Sorry to do this freddie:

    Game 795309
    Game 795312

    OK, maybe I'm not...
    ill just get my shotgun
  9. Standard member MCA
    TokerSmurf
    19 Jul '05 00:06
    Originally posted by DOlivier2004
    Another one

    Game 871325
    hey DOlivier it seems you have quite a few of these huh - brutal from the very first move lol nice!!
  10. Standard member Ravello
    The RudeĀ©
    19 Jul '05 00:19
    do you like this?

    Game 611024

  11. Standard member MCA
    TokerSmurf
    19 Jul '05 00:30 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Ravello
    do you like this?

    Game 611024

    [fen]r2qk2r/ppp2ppp/2p5/8/4n1b1/1P1P4/PBP1KbPP/RN1Q1B1R w kq - 1 9[/fen]
    Yeah Ravello I do like that - quite a bit as it happens.

    The reason i started the thread was because i wondered how may times i'd fall into these traps (and I can see it would be a lot if my opponents so wished lol) but im glad to see that a mid 1400 player can fall just as easily

    [edit] It also gives me a chance to view some of the things i should NOT be doing during my openings & believe me I can do with as much help as possible here lol

  12. Standard member Ravello
    The RudeĀ©
    19 Jul '05 00:40
    Originally posted by MCA
    im glad to see that a mid 1400 player can fall just as easily
    Don't be fooled by TDR1's actual rating,the game is old and at that time he was rated 1150/1200.
  13. Standard member Nyxie
    The eyes of truth
    19 Jul '05 04:43
    Just finished this one on another server :

    1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Nf3 Nbd7 5. e3 h6
    6. Bd3 Qc7 7. cxd5 cxd5 8. Nb5 Qa5+ 9. Bd2 Qb6 10. Qa4 Qd8
    11. Rc1 Nb6 12. Nd6# 1-0
  14. Standard member DOlivier2004
    A Lost Bobby
    19 Jul '05 07:58
    Originally posted by MCA
    hey DOlivier it seems you have quite a few of these huh - brutal from the very first move lol nice!!
    I never play chess with any tricks in mind. These games just happen to have some basic development blunder which I punished severely. At any rate, I know I have an advantage the minute someone moves a bishop as their second move.
  15. Standard member MCA
    TokerSmurf
    19 Jul '05 11:42
    Originally posted by DOlivier2004
    I never play chess with any tricks in mind. These games just happen to have some basic development blunder which I punished severely. At any rate, I know I have an advantage the minute someone moves a bishop as their second move.
    "Punish severly" being the important phrase huh. lol.

    Well all this is certainly helping to point out what not to do in the early stages.

    Thank you all for your posts so far.