Clan Elo Rating Suggestion

Originally posted by mghrn55
Russ. The other clan statistics seem to be out of whack.
For example, Metallica has not won 119 challenges. Nor lost 30.
Same with other clans.

For a while, it looked like the net and gross points doubled in value.
But now I'm not sure.

The challenge and game statistics need to be accurate.

People still want to know that the statistics are acc ...[text shortened]... 2016 ?

We are not convinced that the clan rating has addressed the concerns about collusion.

Russ has explained it, he is not here to pander to your personal preferences or inability to grasp reality.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Russ has explained it, he is not here to pander to your personal preferences or inability to grasp reality.

Nothing has been done to stop collusion no amount of you butt kissing will change the fact this system will not stop cheats

Points removal and suspension will

Originally posted by roma45
Nothing has been done to stop collusion no amount of you butt kissing will change the fact this system will not stop cheats

Points removal and suspension will

Russ has already explained it to you and its tedious having to point out that you are too dim to grasp it. You have been kissing Metallica butt for years you flunkie.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
and you are now nothing but a former sandbagging, challenge dumping, game throwing has-been. Your sandbagging days are over Shirty.

For the umpteenth time yoyo, we don't sandbag....McTayto sandbags.
He does it by entering tournaments and resigning his games in bulk.

If we wanted to sandbag, that would be the easiest way to do it.
Show me ANYONE in our clan that has done this.
You can't because we don't do that.

Game throwing?? I assume you are referring to our admitted policy of resigning games in a challenge once the challenge has been decided?
If that is the case, then where was a game thrown??
There is nothing in ANY rules listings, including USCF and FIDE that says this is illegal in team competitions.
Last time I checked, this is a team competition.

Challenge Dumpibg?? This has got to be your own concoction here.
We emphatically have never dumped a challenge.
We have resigned positions in lost challenges, but we already covered that.

Has been??? Please, it took four clans in a collusion effort and an administration that
was unwilling to intervene and penalize you for the corrupt action, to get you to the top
spot last year. You take such pride in cheating your way to that false platform,
but that just goes further toward showing what a gutless cheat you really are.
We in Metallica hold our head high for our accomplishments.
We never cheated, because we didn't have to.
We did the work and got the job done.
To the detractors, I am sorry you were willing to work as hard.
It is petty to be pissed off because someone wanted it more than you did.
But to make false accusations about cheating repeatedly is childish.

If the future of clan chess has to endure the likes of you and McTayto, it is no
longer worth the effort. We refuse to lower our standards to yours.
We understand legitimacy, and you are not legitimate.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
The solution is here Shirty. We broke no rules and we will not be made subject to your fantasy made up rules. Get it into your thick skull. Russ promised a solution, the solution makes for a level playing field and its no wonder that a skuldugging dishonest disreputable clan leader like you doesn't like it. you and your clan of self righteous hyp ...[text shortened]... no more end of the year dumps for you. You are being forced to play fair and you don't like it.

It is unfortunate that you have become such a gifted liar that you believe your own spew.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Russ has explained it, he is not here to pander to your personal preferences or inability to grasp reality.

What are you babbling about.
I asked him about the clan statistics being a bit off.
The clan challenges won/lost stats are off.

Why don't you look at your own clan ?
Check the won lost record and see if it is accurate.

And yes? You can count your bogus challenges with the 3 sisters if it will help Russ fix an apparent bug.

Originally posted by mghrn55
What are you babbling about.
I asked him about the clan statistics being a bit off.
The clan challenges won/lost stats are off.

Why don't you look at your own clan ?
Check the won lost record and see if it is accurate.

And yes? You can count your bogus challenges with the 3 sisters if it will help Russ fix an apparent bug.

we are about to lose one of those so called bogus challenges, how does that fit in with your fantasy narrative.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
we are about to lose one of those so called bogus challenges, how does that fit in with your fantasy narrative.

That's 2 challenges you will have lost to 3 clans.
Out of more than 50.

Who are you kidding here ??

Originally posted by mghrn55
That's 2 challenges you will have lost to 3 clans.
Out of more than 50.

Who are you kidding here ??

your explanation please, where is it.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
your explanation please, where is it.

You take 50 freebies.
You throw a couple back.
And then you claim to have integrity.

We wouldn't even be having this ridiculous discussion if the 3 collusion clans had been shut down a year ago.

Is that the explanation you are looking for ?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
your explanation please, where is it.

You even suck at cheating!!!

I hope everyone comes to their senses and realises what adopting ELO will mean for the future of the clan challenge
Far from curing the ails of the clan challenge it will make it worse
It will result in the top clans fearing being challenged from those below ( because a loss will mean a plunge into the depths )
It will promote sandbagging to gain an advantage over other clans
The only way it could work is if everybody was honest
Small chance of that from what I have seen so far
ELO may work for individuals but not for clans
It was not meant for clans and should therefore be thrown out

Originally posted by mghrn55
You take 50 freebies.
You throw a couple back.
And then you claim to have integrity.

We wouldn't even be having this ridiculous discussion if the 3 collusion clans had been shut down a year ago.

Is that the explanation you are looking for ?

Bilge water, you have no explanation except some harebrained fantasy, you live in Disney land Mahgoobs, you and your entire clan and flunkies.

Originally posted by shortcircuit
You even suck at cheating!!!

You are a fantasy merchant shirty, no explanation. the system is changing and your old road is rapidly fading,

Originally posted by padger
I hope everyone comes to their senses and realises what adopting ELO will mean for the future of the clan challenge
Far from curing the ails of the clan challenge it will make it worse
It will result in the top clans fearing being challenged from those below ( because a loss will mean a plunge into the depths )
It will promote sandbagging to gain an advant ...[text shortened]... or individuals but not for clans
It was not meant for clans and should therefore be thrown out

hey waz up podgy?