19 Apr 15
Originally posted by Proper KnobSigh. . . I am not taking of sex between two females, my reference was made to the highest ever recorded figures for HIV among homosexual men in the UK and I have resisted and rejected all attempts to detract from that class. Note I have not made reference to Africa, nor to females, nor to homosexuals as a whole, but to homosexual men in the UK.
Could you explain how homosexual sex between two females contains 'inherent health risks' and how such a practice 'contravenes the natural physiology of the human body'.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIsn't it true that something in the region of 94% of homosexual men do not have HIV and that ~ or so I read at wiki ~ less than 1% of people living with a diagnosed HIV infection in the UK died in 2013. "This is about the same as for the UK population as a whole". And another interesting point wiki makes is: "People newly diagnosed with HIV today can expect to have a normal life expectancy if they are diagnosed on time and on effective treatment."
Sigh. . . I am not taking of sex between two females, my reference was made to the highest ever recorded figures for HIV among homosexual men in the UK and I have resisted and rejected all attempts to detract from that class. Note I have not made reference to Africa, nor to females, nor to homosexuals as a whole, but to homosexual men in the UK.
my reference was made to the highest ever recorded figures for HIV among homosexual men in the UK
What is your reference for this claim?
19 Apr 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI think you have forgot what you wrote, which is not unusual. Let me remind you-
Sigh. . . I am not taking of sex between two females, my reference was made to the highest ever recorded figures for HIV among homosexual men in the UK and I have resisted and rejected all attempts to detract from that class. Note I have not made reference to Africa, nor to females, nor to homosexuals as a whole, but to homosexual men in the UK.
The fact of the matter is that homosexual sex in itself contains inherent health risks because it contravenes the natural physiology of the human body.
Homosexual sex relates to both men and women. Please be more specific next time.
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19 Apr 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobieyour link is to a series of poorly thought out opinions masquerading as facts.
I provided a link you may make reference to that.
just as you mentioned anal sex is used by both homo and hetero, so are all the sexual acts described in the crappy link. so this returns us back to the start.
which sexual acts are YOU referring to?
19 Apr 15
Originally posted by Proper Knob
I think you have forgot what you wrote, which is not unusual. Let me remind you-
The fact of the matter is that [b]homosexual sex in itself contains inherent health risksbecause it contravenes the natural physiology of the human body.
Homosexual sex relates to both men and women. Please be more specific next time.[/b]pedant!
19 Apr 15
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Originally posted by stellspalfiemy reference was to a doctor of medicine. You think he fell in the Clyde and came up with his medical certificates in his pockets? How pathetic and weak and beggarly an argument as I have ever seen. I have provided a reference, it is enough for you at present.
your link is to a series of poorly thought out opinions masquerading as facts.
just as you mentioned anal sex is used by both homo and hetero, so are all the sexual acts described in the crappy link. so this returns us back to the start.
which sexual acts are [b]YOU referring to?[/b]
19 Apr 15
Originally posted by FMFI read it on the BBC website.
Isn't it true that something in the region of 94% of homosexual men do not have HIV and that ~ or so I read at wiki ~ less than 1% of people living with a diagnosed HIV infection in the UK died in 2013. "This is about the same as for the UK population as a whole". And another interesting point wiki makes is: "People newly diagnosed with HIV today can expect to h ...[text shortened]... ded figures for HIV among homosexual men in the UK
What is your reference for this claim?[/b]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20526380
19 Apr 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobieHere's a 9 page rebuttal of Dr Diggs article. You won't read it, but others might like to.
my reference was to a doctor of medicine. You think he fell in the Clyde and came up with his medical certificates in his pockets? How pathetic and weak and beggarly an argument as I have ever seen. I have provided a reference, it is enough for you at present.
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19 Apr 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobieno its not enough. have you read it? it contains a mountain of factual errors, statistical errors, its very poorly referenced (probably presuming most people reading it will not check). much of it is non scientific, just personal opinion guess work. its not a peer reviewed study, its a hatchet job of misrepresented, out dated and often straight out lies.
my reference was to a doctor of medicine. You think he fell in the Clyde and came up with his medical certificates? How pathetic and weak and beggarly an argument as I have ever seen. I have provided a reference, it is enough for you at present.
if you took this subject seriously and actually cared forming an honest opinion you wouldnt put links to that kinda crap.
now, which sexual acts are YOU referring too?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe all time high was four years ago? You didn't mention that. It's also about diagnosis and not infection. An increase in diagnoses ~ if it means more of the cases of infection out there are being detected rather than missed ~ is to be welcomed.
I read it on the BBC website.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20526380
What about the figures I provided you with?