Lake of fire

Originally posted by KellyJay
Hell, like child rape, murder, war crimes, and several other really bad things cannot be dismissed as not real just because they are not "good" things to our thinking. Our feelings and emotions can be at odds with several topics and that doesn't mean reality will some how make the bad things go away.

Originally posted by sonship
I am not sure what your issue is.

Originally posted by divegeester
I'm going to be pretty blunt sonship, but I think you are lying here.

I think you know exactly what my issue is about the Bible saying that Jesus will be in the presence of billions of people as he personally burns then alive while supernaturally preventing them from dying or blinking out of existence...for eternity.

Your ideology is chokingly revolting, your stony-faced resolve to not see the "issue" is appalling dishonesty.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I don't think its logically consistent to call someone dishonest simply because you do not agree with their perspective...

Originally posted by divegeester
You are frequently found to be both blatantly and intellectually dishonest, so your position here isn't surprising.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
i see the point i was making bounced off the side of your head and reverberated into the stratosphere. oh well thats what happens when one tries to reason with someone uninterested in reason.

Originally posted by KellyJay
So not due to any text just your opinion of how God should behave according your personal views?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Sure the ideology is abhorrent to the senses and incompatible with the idea of a loving beneficent creator...

Originally posted by bob58
It all comes down to personal opinion. Even if you subscribe to the idea that the Bible is the inspired word of God I do not) and completely true you will find equally well versed and fair minded people who will give wildly different opinions on the meaning of the same verse.

Originally posted by KellyJay
...it isn't opinions that should concern any of us, but reality. As pointed out our likes and dislikes do not change the color of the sky, ...

Originally posted by KellyJay
God displays His wrath and mercy. One His grace will be outstanding beyond words and no one who receives it will be worthy of it on their own, and those who receive His wrath will receive it with cause, but none of them had too since a way was made for all to avoid
it.

Originally posted by FMF
Isn't this just the same sort of thing as Dasa used to say? What makes you think that people here should believe you're more credible than him?

Originally posted by bob58
Kelly,

For me it comes down to judging the source. I believe the New Testament is a biography of the live of Christ meant to inspire readers that Christ was real and he is the way to salvation. The Old Testament, who knows.

For those that believe the Bible is literally true interpreting the verses has some value but no matter what the interpretation is ...[text shortened]... men with their own personal agendas and the ultimate truth is unknowable at least in this life.